BMW 2013 F700GS shopping advice

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by dirtynerd, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. terraunbound

    terraunbound Been here awhile

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    As much as the Brit wind screen is nice... $500 is a bit rich --- unless I miscalculated $495 + price of bracket...

    The Jesse cases are nice and durable. For weight savings, the dry bags are really good too
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    BELSTAFF ADV NOMAD

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    The TT high shield is $221.70, Wunderlich shield at $255.00 Add a lip deflector another $129.00 & The TT Desierto3 is a whopping $804.00 all purchased from brand name big companies once you've spent the big bucks is there any support after the sale?

    Ian has a customer system that in some cases he has honored years after the sale. I'll spend my money w/ fellow Adv Rider & know there is service after the sale.
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  3. PatrickM

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    Haha, awesome!

    Thanks for the pictures, the first was great, but the rest just look like the regular bike.

    When I was at SJ BMW, that bike looked SMALL, too small to be a F700 so I even went in and incredulously asked and got the answer.

    I have short friends who don't have riders permit and would like to pick your brain if you don't mind?

    Being 5'2", were there any other options you looked at? How is the confidence when stopped at the lights? Does the bike feel good (ergos, handlebar distance when on the highway, peg distance, seat comfort, etc)?

    I'm of the mind that if you're putting the highway miles on (x-trip being a great example) you'd want a 600cc or larger. But all of the shorter bikes (stock, not custom for other readers) seem to be smaller dispacement engines.

    Have you dropped it yet? The tow truck and dirt... How did it feel to try and right?

    And saw the CA plates, I'm supposing you're going "the long way around", so how is the journey? San Jose is a favorite stop of mine (work, family and friends!)
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  4. terraunbound

    terraunbound Been here awhile

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    BELSTAFF: Hearing that Britannia Composites are from an inmate is a +1 for me - thanks for that info. The Mirage2 does not specific state whether it will fit the F700 so I'll drop them a line!

    PatrickM: Yesterday I had a chance to sit on the factory lowered F700 (with perhaps the low seat). With about a 30-inch inseam and thick-soled Red wing boots, my knees were slightly bent when sitting on the bike. (wow - that has never happened to me before!). On the regular sized F700, with the regular seat, I'm on tippy toes; with the low seat, I can touch with the balls of me feet.

    There are lots of options in shorter bikes if one wants to stay on paved roads; take a look at The Shortypants Thread - lots of fantastic info for us inseam challenged DS riders.
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  6. puckinet

    puckinet Safety third

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    Congrats on the bike you will love it. My option on bags are, the Jessie bags are a good bag but I don't care for the look of the bag just hangs too low for me. I have the BMW adventure bags fits the bike nice and is higher, keyed to the bike for me was huge. My other choice would be the hepco solid bag. Wind screen Cee Bailey is really nice have one on my girlfriends bike but is most likely coming off. It's a nice looking screen but with hand guards on they hit and the screen is sloped back too far. I think she will be going with the touratech. Good luck on picking stuff a lot of choices out the.
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  8. dirtynerd

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    BELSTAFF - Sorry if I'm already confusing posts. Are you recommending a fellow ADV rider for the windscreen or side bags?

    PatrickM - Being that I was going for a dual sport bike, with lowered options, I didn't really have many options to choose from :) I would have loved the F800GS, but lowering it wasn't a (recommended) option. ABS and roadside assistance (really good from my experience) comes standard with BMW bikes, so those were also reassuring points. Comfort/ergonomics - I haven't had much riding experience relatively, but the bike has felt great so far on the trip. i got Rox Risers so that I don't have to try to reach as far and it's definitely made a difference. They're pretty easy to adjust too if needed. Seatwise, the stock seat is okay for now, but I feel like there could be more comfy/plush options. That'll be a later upgrade.

    And yes, I've dropped it tons of times as a noob (no deathly emergencies yet), and it's held up great. I'm adding Alt Rider's upper crash bars for the next part of the trip for extra safety.

    SLOWPOKE - I have thought of soft bags, but now that I use a Wolfman as a tailbag, I realized I like having easier access to stuff. Hard bags are a nice solution...plus they do look much more bad ass in my opinion. I haven't checked out the Happy Trails yet...will do some more research. And thanks for that thread! I appreciate organization :)
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    Dirtynerd:
    Both actually, Al Jesse is a veteran RTW rider having ridden Africa back when it was safe to do so. AL is also a friend and neighbor, I live less than a hour from his shop. Al will go the extra mile with you to make sure things are right and that you are satisfied w/ your gear

    I follow Ians thread in the vendor section of ADV Rider----Britannia Composite--- & his responses to his customers leads me to believe that he too is an honest purveyor of adv equipment to the moto public just as much so as another Canadian group that you will want to check out when you put on your skid plate and luggage rack That being Overland Moto Development

    I have talked to, dealt with and purchased products from all of the above and am completely happy w/ the equipment I purchased from all them.

    I would, however, suggest that you NOT take my word , but do your own homework and ck out these or any future purchases, call talk to them, Email them, get a "feel" from them, you will know. Like talking to Kurt & Martha at Black Dog Cycle Works, the enthusiasm for the sport & products they sell just jumps out at you, you just know that they will stand behind the products they sell because they use them themselves

    There are really good people on here so get busy "farkling" that ride & if I can be of any help PM me as I too have the same bike

    Jeff
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  10. LoffKat

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    I just got a F700GS as well. i'm 5'3" and 125 lbs. I have a 29" inseam as well. I bought the standard suspension with ESA and a low seat and am comfortable on it. I got my windscreen from Cee Baileys and the Zega Pro panniers in bare aluminum (cheapest at 1199). LOVE the bike! so excited there is finally dual purpose bike for shorties! :clap about time BMW!!!! now everyone needs to work on adventure clothing for women. :deal
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  11. moe.ron

    moe.ron Pig. Can. Fly.

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    Aeroflow makes a windshield now too I think. Mine got broken, I think I will try one.

    I think I am going to put bars from an 800 as well.

    LoffKat, I would think there is lots of gear for girls out there.
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  12. dirtynerd

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    There's a decent amount, but not nearly as much (availability & selection). Especially in petite sizes (apparently we're not a mass market yet). LoffKat - check out Revzilla. I LOVE them - quality stuff and really easy to contact for gear advice.
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  13. LoffKat

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    There's an okay amount. a LOT of it is "womens" but it actually men's cut's sized smaller. Ex: Olympia AST.. i had that for 2 years and it just wasn't cut for women's bodies. I just sucked up the price for my ADV gear and got the Rev'it Ventura jacket and pants which actually fit right everywhere. I went with Olympia originally because it was economic and fit best for what was available to me. Prior to buying the Olympia, i tried Joe Rocket and Scorpion and that did not come close to fitting me in the chest area. Except for my first Olympia jacket, everything else has been bought from Revzilla. i LOVE them! Kat gave me great recommendations. Zilla cash ain't too bad either... :)

    I saw somewhere that someone had a Wolfman's tank bag mounted on the F700, could someone please point me to that?
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  14. B_C_Ries

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    Where you ride makes a huge difference as to what luggage is appropriate, I live in Southern California, just North of Mexico and what is best down here might not make much sense in Canada. I just do not need to carry alot of cold weather stuff,
    Lighter is always better until you cannot carry necessary gear.

    I do like the look of the Happy Trails metal luggage in the smaller sizes with those metal loops so you can strap down more stuff though,
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  15. Geoffster

    Geoffster Fool - Born This Way

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    Hard bags or soft bags? The question's been asked (and answered) before, but here's a quick summary:

    HARD

    Pros: easy access; lockable; typically waterproof

    Cons: can injure your leg in a crash; Touratech/BMW can twist in a crash rendering the lid unattachable; heavy​

    SOFT

    Pros: survive all but the worst crashes; lightweight; inexpensive to purchase/replace

    Cons: a floppy nightmare when unloaded or lightly loaded; more difficult to access; only lockable with a cable lock or alternative​

    My wealthy friends get Jesse Bags for their GS and KTM Adventures.

    Walter Colebatch -- a real RTW adventurer on a BMW G650X -- is so sold on soft bags, he had a frame and bags designed to his specifications. http://www.adventure-spec.com/default/adventure-spec-magadan-panniers.html

    My decision:

    Since my 700 came with mounts for Varios, I negotiated for Varios. When traveling off-pavement, I'll be sure to carry ROK straps in case of a bad crash. Friends have used ROK straps on Touratech, BMW, FJR, Concours -- everything but Jesses. Jesses don't seem to break!

    If I was planning on low-speed crashes, I'd get Wolfman Expedition Dry Saddle Bags and Wolfman Side Racks.
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  16. terraunbound

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    Here's one of the Wolfman tank bags, I believe the Explorer Lite:
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    Without unzipping the expander section, it has easily carried:
    the insulated inner liner to a jacket
    0.5 liter of water
    straws
    small purse with wallet, phone, id, camera
    hat and neck gaiter
    lock
    granola bars
    with room left over.

    And yet, it was not too tall to feel comfortable.
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  17. indio

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    Question for OP, which dealer did you buy it from & if don't mind asking what was the OTD price?I live in Bay area as well hence the question.I have scheduled a test ride for Thursday at San Francisco city BMW dealer. Paid a visit to San Jose dealer they wanted me to sign the check but didn't want to be bothered by questions so I left!
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  18. rhyndman

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    http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhh/9186349589/

    Here's mine - Wolfman tank bag, Cee Bailey 22" screen, Wolfman saddle bags and a Wolfman dry duffle. The saddle bags aren't waterproof but have a waterproof liner. I'm 6'1" hence the screen height. And it's still a little noisy at the top of my helmet.

    More recent farkles: mirror extenders, handlebar riser and handguards. Soon to come: aux lights.

    In the near term I don't expect to do a lot of offroad / expedition. I need more experience before I do that, especially since I mostly ride solo. But regardless of the application I love these saddlebags. Pretty easy to put on and take off. Only downside I can see is they don't lock. But with stuff rolled on to the top you need to be determined and fast to steal, I think. And there are ways to lock if that's important to you.

    I love the top box. Awesome for quck lockable access in the city. So so handy. Watertight so far. Nice back rest for my wife :D

    I would not get the tank bag again. It's a bit of a drag to take it off so if you're leaving the bike in the rain - lunch or a water break or overnight - your stuff gets wet. Map case too. Ways around this but I would still prefer a dry tank bag.

    I se a RAM x-mount and iPhone for nav etc and sewed my glove tips with conductive thread. The x-mount is good but on a few occasions I have noticed the phone almost out of the grip. Not good. I was told this is bomb-proof but I don't think it is. But I have a pretty good head for nav so the onboarding system is not that big a deal for me - an occasional check during breaks works fine for me so far.

    On my first long ride - 2500 kms - worst road hazard was cars pulling out in front. So the aux lights, IMO, are a must have. They go on next month.

    Have fun and good luck!!! :clap
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  19. K777

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    I just finished getting everything on mine for camping this weekend.
    SW Motech racks with Trax (37 on each side to keep her slimmer)
    Barkbuster Storms
    CalSi 18" windscreen.

    Once I get some road time in I'll chime back about how well the windscreen works


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  20. K777

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    What a difference a real screen makes. CalSci had great service and it bolts right on. Rode almost 300 miles on the highway each way and the wind went right over my head.
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