BMW 450 enduro (merged) threadfest...

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Max Kool, Mar 4, 2007.

  1. Some Dude

    Some Dude what attitude problem???

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    Not exactly that way anymore with the introduction of the RXV and SXV which they soley engineered, designed and manufactured all on their own from the power plant to the frame and such.
  2. R3B

    R3B Lazy Motorcyclist

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    Well with modern casting methods, the swingarm itself kan become the enclosure, so wait and see :-)
  3. Max Kool

    Max Kool Xtankteam™

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    Heey Ernst!

    Good to see you. How's life man, is the Mulhacen already in the house?

    (say hi to Syl)
  4. R3B

    R3B Lazy Motorcyclist

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    Historically nonsense, the aprilia was already two years in production before BMW bought themselve a learnerbike for the missus...
  5. R3B

    R3B Lazy Motorcyclist

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    Life is as aver slightly bumpy but fantastic, the Mulhacen is in da House, and boy what a joy.

    (hmmm if i place a picture here will te mod's relocate it? :-)

    Relocate it myself

    New Thread devoted to the Mulhacen
  6. alfaris

    alfaris MOTERO TORERO

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  7. Pantah

    Pantah Red Sox Nation

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    Notice they are under a Husqvarna EZ-Up.

    The design looks pretty clunsy to my eyes. Heavy too. The chassis could be a one-off intended to throw off observers. The motor must be pretty finished, though and it appears too complicated. Certainly no Honda CRF.
  8. Some Dude

    Some Dude what attitude problem???

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    Rumors are that the BMW 450 will be several pounds lighter then its competition (KTM 450EXC). Elimination of the kick starter would probably net 3-4lbs right there. But nonetheless all industry rumors are sounding good to me!!! Bring it on already.
  9. gas_pig70

    gas_pig70 Mmm... mud!

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    I'm with you 100% on this.
  10. Max Kool

    Max Kool Xtankteam™

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    Hmmm, I don't think the chassis is a one-off. Check this patent request. It shows a very detailed description of the complete build of the bike and the engine.
  11. Taki

    Taki Waiting for Godot

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    Nice find! very interesting design diagrams, cant read German
  12. R3B

    R3B Lazy Motorcyclist

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    Well if one looks at the current buying spree under the GS owners it's a clever move to keep their customers in their own shop, instead of shopping at KTM Husqvarna etc...
  13. Max Kool

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    So true,

    when I look around me in GS-land, there are a lot of people buying an extra motorcycle for offroad fun. What would be better if you could buy one from you favorite brand?

    (at a BMW dealer near you instead travelling half the country to find a Kutasqberg specialist.)
  14. GB

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    Has anyone managed an educated guess / prediction when this bike will be in showrooms? :tb

    and ... we're still waiting on tidbits about the F800GS :tb

    so many bikes to tempt you.. :baldy
  15. SQD8R

    SQD8R Eat squids and be merry

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    :nod If priced in line with the other European offers it would be a boost for BMW fans with the warranty, parts availability, # of dealerships etc. trumping smaller companies while still providing something new, unique and European into the mix. Getting beat by a Honda, Suzuki, KTM et al won't be a factor for me since I cannot ride any of these 450's at their limit. Having the "statistical best" as opposed to what you really want was something left to real racers and 20 somethings looking to own WSC refugees, not 30 plus - middle-aged, slowing, enduro bike riders like most of us. :lol3

    Changing the CS in 10 mins or 1 hour is not a deal breaker in my mind. Just like every other enthusiast, if you want the bike you buy it and live with the eventualities of the design. How often are you changing the CS? Is that really a deal-breaker.

    I would have thought too many bikes was never a bad thing but you're right GB it just makes it harder to get through another winter.
  16. rwamf

    rwamf Follow me

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    Originally Posted by ram1000
    How is it that the new designers think that you don't need a frame wrapping around the bottom of the motor? They must have never ridden in rocky terrain. I have cased my bike with a skid plate on it so hard that the dent goes all the way to the motor. The last time I hit something hard it bent the frame behind the skid plate. It seems real stupid to me to think that the motor cases are going to hold the skid plate in a manner strong enough to thwart off these kinds of impacts.


    I don't have a problem on my 950 since it doesn't get to do singel track, but on a bike designed for single track it just doesn't do the job. I am going to pass on the new KTM 690 if the dualsport version doesn't have a cradle frame.
    My GS does not have a frame under it and riding double on parts of the Rubicon I managed to smash the crap out of the stock bashplate and I did no damage to the engine, just took off the skid plate and hammered it out. And with that heavy pig two up, I am sure I hit rocks harder than I am with my 325# TE riding solo.
    So It might not be an issue with me, time will tell when the bike comes out.
  17. Mknpwr

    Mknpwr Have you seen my bike?

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    By that I mean in the dealer with a for sale sign on it. I want to be able to touch it, sit on it etc... :deal
  18. Mknpwr

    Mknpwr Have you seen my bike?

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    By that I mean, in the dealer with a for sale sign on it. I want to be able to touch it, sit on it etc... :deal
  19. YOGOI

    YOGOI Prick

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    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by Pantah
    Notice they are under a Husqvarna EZ-Up.

    The design looks pretty clunsy to my eyes. Heavy too. The chassis could be a one-off intended to throw off observers. The motor must be pretty finished, though and it appears too complicated. Certainly no Honda CRF.

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>:huh IMO, the 450 CRF is a high maintnance race bike. Far from the trouble free, easy maintained image that Honda has.

    Rumors are that the BMW 450 will be several pounds lighter then its competition (KTM 450EXC). Elimination of the kick starter would probably net 3-4lbs right there. But nonetheless all industry rumors are sounding good to me!!! Bring it on already.

    3-4lbs kick starter?????????? :eek1 What would you guest the battery weighs for that electric starter??????

    I'm pretty excited to see BMW put out a 450 dirt bike. But I'll wait for it to be on the show room floor before I form an opinion. I'm sure Ill like it,but wont be buy'n it.
  20. ratdog

    ratdog Been here awhile

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    Didn't Maico do this in the 70s? The clutch may not have been mounted directly on the crankshaft, but it definitely was spun at high speed to allow a smaller clutch.

    Mike