BMW Atlantis 4 Suit vs Aerostitch Transit Suit

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  1. GSBS

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    Hey folks,

    I'm looking at these two suits for my daily 35-mile (one-way) commute year-round that includes some dicy metro interstate miles, as well as the other riding I do.

    My primary gear has been BMW Rallye 2 Pro for the last seven years and I have had the unfortunate circumstance to test it vs. asphalt. However, I now want to have leather between me and the tarmac if my gear is called on for protection.

    The Atlantis retails for about $200 more than the 'Stich, but I'm currently employed at a BMW dealer, so the pricing is pretty much a wash.

    I'd like to hear a comparison, if possible, from anyone who has owned both the Transit and Atlantis 4.

    I haven't tried on the Atlantis, but a customer was in the shop the other day and I made the mistake of trying on his Transit Jacket and I must say I was VERY impressed with the fit and comfort. He tells me he's never gotten wet wearing it.

    Thanks in advance!
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  2. '05Train

    '05Train Mind is not for rent

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  3. davidji

    davidji bike curious

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    Do you wear the pants? It sounds convenient for commuting because the pants are described as overpants. The Transit aren't intended or sized that way. 1 size up I could get them over jeans, but maybe not over jeans + insulation.

    Do you find 'em comfortable over jeans? And an insulating layer?
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  4. VSK

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    Never used the Transit so cant comment on it, but I had narrowed it down to the same two choices about 3 years ago. The reviews on the Transit were good and it sure looks like a great piece of kit. However, I ended up going with the Atlantis because I was able to try it at a local BMW dealer and it fit really well. A promotional offer got the prices within spitting distance, so my wallet didnt feel too bad either.

    I have used the Atlantis in all types of temperatures and weather. It is completely waterproof which was a critical requirement for me. With the right base layers, I have used the Atlantis up to 95 degrees - does fine as long as you are moving. But on the other end of the spectrum, I can probably wear it comfortably till the high 30s (for shorter periods) or low 40s (for longer rides).

    I find the pants to be very versatile - for temps lower than 30s I pair the pants with the my Halvarrsons Safety Jacket (another great piece of kit). And they fit well over all my boots and dont draw a lot of attention once off the bike.

    The quality of the zippers is top notch and are easy to operate with gloves on. Its not a big deal for me, but to prioritize on the fit, the pockets in jacket and pants dont have room for a lot of stuff.

    Let me know if you have any specific questions - happy to answer them.
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  5. GSBS

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    Thanks for the detailed comments. One question… is your Atlantis the current "4" version or an earlier generation?
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  6. keiji

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    I only have an Atlantis 4, my pockets aren't that deep.

    The Atlantis has slightly better armor coverage as the NP protectors are sized larger than the sas-tec S/C protectors, and as you probably know, the Atlantis uses a specially cured leather as opposed to a membrane technology to keep water out...this means the leather is very soft and much more breathable than any Gore-tex I've owned.

    If you were talking about the original transit (no pit zips) vs the Atlantis, i'd take the Atlantis hands down..

    If you're talking about the newer transit WITH pit zips, then I'd probably go with the transit for functionality (venting + reflectivity), but the Atlantis just has that "je ne sais quoi"
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  7. beemerphile

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    I have the Atlantis suit. I would consider it a three season suit in Alabama with summer excluded. I don't like it in the heat. I'll wear it next week to the Stagecoach Cafe gathering with an electric liner. I have a Rally II suit as well and don't care for the internal waterproof liner. In fact, I don't care much at all for the Rally II. I don't understand your aversion to fabric. Maybe you had a fabric suit fail, but that doesn't extrapolate to all fabric suits. I have eight different high-end suits, several in leather, but for commuting, I have not found anything to beat a 1-piece Aerostich Roadcrafter (with the new style zippers).

    ETA: The Roadcrafter is the only one I have crash-tested, and it came out great in a 50 mph lowside. Only minor repairs needed.
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  8. '05Train

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    I haven't gotten the pants yet, though a good friend has a pair. He swears by them. They're fine either over jeans (or khakis, or slacks), or over a thermal base layer. They're adjustable enough to accommodate differing layers.

    One caveat with the jacket...You will have to add back armor, as it doesn't ship with any.
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  9. GSBS

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    I have nothing against fabric suits. I've logged over 160K miles in my two Rally 2 Pro suits and crashed fairly hard in the first one with no harm to me (suit wore thru in a few places). That R2P is now faded and tattered, but I still use it for off-road regularly. I've just never had a high-end leather outfit and was impressed by the fit and comfort of my friend's Transit jacket and thought I'd try leather this time around. I really like the idea of a vented leather jacket (perforated) with Goretex liner built in. And he says it works very well for him.

    I've know several folks with Roadcrafters and everyone seems to really like them, but I've personally never tried one. These seem like they'd be too hot for summer to me, however.

    My newest R2P is still like new (bought it off an inmate here last year for a good price), but commuting in it would mean changing clothes at work and before heading home, or looking like a Power Ranger all day.
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  10. VSK

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    Its Atlantis 4.
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  11. Gruesome

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    I use my Atlantis 4 for commuting. The leather seems to breathe relatively well, and with a sweater underneath it's not too cold for 35°F. I really did not want a membrane, and certainly no zip-in liner.
    I bought jacket and pants one size larger ( although I might have grown a bit in the meantime...), so I can wear work pants underneath without a problem (although the knee armor occasionally can be a bit in the way when getting into the pant legs).
    My other nitpick would be that the main jacket zipper feels a bit delicate (but no actual problems so far).

    All in all, great suit.
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  12. TimothyCaseTimothy

    TimothyCaseTimothy Been here awhile

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    I have the Transit. Love it and it's getting better/more comfortable as it's being broken in. Pretty spendy, but worth it. High quality gear for sure.
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  13. BeachMoto

    BeachMoto Been here awhile

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    I don't have personal experince with either but this past summer I rode through Yukon on the way to AK for a couple of days with a guy on a well farkled KLR who had the BMW Atlantis suit. It rained on us for a solid 12-14 hours one day and his suit never leaked. I was impressed.

    This is him at the Toad River Lodge.

    [​IMG]
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  14. SpeedyK

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    I have an original Transit, no rain tests here in AZ, but the heat-resistant coating works well. I was standing in a parking lot on a 90 degree day wearing the pants and Alpinestars black leather jacket, remembered the hype on the coating so felt the jacket, which wasn't hot enough to fry eggs on, quite. The Transit pants were mildly warm. In full sun, 12 blocks from Mexico.

    I don't think you can go wrong with either, it's a matter of fit and your detail prefs.

    The Transit pants have a low rise, which I like for riding because it's not poking me in the gut, but it means a short zipper and with the internal gusseting that can complicate certain roadside drainage operations.

    There was a sale on the original Transit suits in some sizes.
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  15. AceRider01

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    Atlantis 4 is breathable like all leather - but please dont think you would be comfortable once the temp is in 85f or 29c, even if you are moving. You will also need some windproof clothing underneath if you ride in temp below 60f or 15c.

    It's best temp range (with a T shirt or long sleeve shirt only underneath) is 18c to 28c, during day time.



    All day drizzle / light rain is no problem - probably can handle tropical down-pour for 20 minutes
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  16. Gruesome

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    Good to know. I've only tested mine up to one hour in a downpour.
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  17. Don Coyote

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    I'd say 60F is about mid-range for the Atlantis suit with nothing more than a light-weight shirt and boxers under. Below 40F i toss a rain jacket on for an extra layer of air insulation and better neck protection. Monday i did 80 miles in 10F with a heavyweight fleece shirt and boxer briefs and it was definitely too cold. Same shirt with thermal long johns (and rain jacket) on the return trip at 20F was fine (although dealing with a chincy IS-Max helmet was distracting).

    Most of all, i'm impressed with how comfortable the Atlantis pants are on or off the cycle. Sorry, no transit comparison.
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  18. squish

    squish Out of the office.

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    If I worked at a dealership, I'd be thinking about wearing gear the shop sold.
    It's advertising for the shop, It lets me know the product lines better and I get a discount. I like discounts.

    That said the transit suit is nice, if you don't live somewhere hot and dry. I like that the transit jacket is cut slightly longer, but not a full 3/4 length jacket.
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  19. Michael

    Michael Been here awhile

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    I agree, I have both the Atlantis4 and the fxrg. I prefer the fxrg and wear it every day that the temp is under 85.
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  20. Doug Just Doug

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    What is the waterproof membrane on the H-D stuff, some proprietary "tex" fabric?
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