BMW Cafe Racers - post a pic?

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Nick Makwell, Aug 30, 2006.

  1. relayda

    relayda Been here awhile

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    Are you talking from actual experience or just observation?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    I am 46 years old, have ridden quite a few different bikes over the last 37 years, and have tried different types of riding, motocross, flat track road bikes etc... In my experience, I felt that I reached my prime in terms of riding ability during my late teens thru mid thirties. Although injuries over the years hampered me during the later years, I also experienced in improvement in riding ability, which I attribute not to experience but to better technology.
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    I have probably owned 50 different rode bikes in my lifetime and ridden maybe 100; including an 75 KR750 Kawasaki race bike, an 89 Bimota YB6 and the typical Norton Commando production racer to name a few. Currently I own 4 road bikes. The oldest being a 69 CB750 the newest a 05 GSXR1000. If I recall the H2R, it was a pretty fast and nimble bike. In comparison to the GSXR1000, although there is a significant horsepower, powerband and weight difference the KR750 has the same top speed as my GSXR1000. However it’s requires a completely different style of riding. If you can’t break the rear wheel loose in a corner, then you can’t ride it to it’s limits. The problem here is obvious as it is more prone to high siding. I don’t care how good of a rider you are; once you are high siding your chances of recovery are very low…although it can be done. I can personally attest to that.
  2. Max Headroom

    Max Headroom lost in the '70s

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    My wife has a Buell XB12S with the factory "race kit". Puts out 50% more power than my R90S. I feel like I grow little red horns on my forehead when I ride it...

    Point-to-point though, for longer distances, and around town, I'd much rather ride the R90S. The Buell has a heavier clutch, clunkier gearbox and a less comfortable seat/footpeg relationship compared to the R90S. Admittedly I've replaced the flywheel & clutch assembly in the R90S with the later post '82 items, along with the gearbox internals and "cush" driveshaft, but all the same I prefer the way the BMW does things. Refinement is not one of the Buell's strong suits.

    On real roads with ordinary riders the Buell doesn't have the huge edge one might expect with the benefit of 30 years development. On a track, things are different.....:evil
  3. phactory

    phactory Motorcycle Rescue

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    This fairing is very similar to the fairing on my Magni BMW MB2. I was thinking of producing a run of them and it certainly wouldn't cost $1000.00 each! Any interest? I will post a pic as soon as I can.

    PhacK



  4. Hawk Medicine

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    Thats a very cute bike! I especially like the Gulf colors and the fairing.

    We don't often see those Dunstall style fairings over here, so they tend to be real eye catchers. I've also seen thise police tanks bring big bucks. I dunno why, 'cause all they do is take up gas space but I guess theyre kinda rare here as well.

    Hmmm.... Maybe I should try that style for my R-100 project! Uhuh..... Lets see....
  5. tathambenjamin

    tathambenjamin Been here awhile

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    Kaiwe- Can you tell us a little bit about your exhaust system, I love the look of those shorty mufflers. Thanks
  6. Hawk Medicine

    Hawk Medicine Coyote's Brother

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    Those look like the shorty mufflers that JC Witney sells through thier catalog.
  7. Renner

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    Dog help me, I have interest.

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  8. Wirespokes

    Wirespokes Beemerholics Anonymous

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    I'm just going on what was said previously. I have ridden newer bikes besides the R11S I've owned since 2001.

    Look at the land speed record that Burt Munro set on his 1920s Indian that still stands. But that's straight line stuff. He also won a lot of races on that old Indian before turning it into a Bonneville racer - and that was against new bikes.

    I'm not arguing that new technology isn't nice - my R11S does just about everything better than my old airheads, but for the real world riding that I do, I prefer the older technology. On the other hand, the older bikes can be made to perform as well as the newer ones with upgraded brakes, suspension, frame strengthening and all that. The question is how much time and money are you willing to pour into a project like that?

    No, all I was saying was that if the vintage bikes were clocking times that would qualify them for the super bike grid, that should be proof enough.
  9. Uncle Ernie

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    If you're talking about that Dunstall style of fairing, Airtech and Glass From The Past make them.
  10. drhach

    drhach We can't stop here, this is bat country!!

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    That bike was a shadow of its former self and in no way resembled a 1921 Indian when he got done with it; at least not in terms of the powerplant. Another thing to consider is that although he did it in his shed, most of the stuff that he did, kept pace with what was being done to modern bikes of the day. He was just retrofitting it to an old Indian. He did a ton of redesign to the engine to get it up to snuff. No stock bike of that era ever had a hope of setting the kind of records that he achieved; no matter who the rider was.
  11. relayda

    relayda Been here awhile

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    Aw, I love Burt Munro's story...have any of you seen "One Man's Dream, The Britten Bike Story"? Could you imagine the advancement in technology if John Britten were still alive... ...Munro and Britten..couple of talented Kiwis.:freaky
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    Wirespokes Beemerholics Anonymous

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    Good point! And on the other side of that same coin, I don't recall him doing much to the frame, suspension or brakes. There was one story of when he was on a beach race where they run to one pole and back again. Burt, having shit for brakes had to take the turn really wide while others would slow down quickly. He had a very bad accident T-Boning someone who braked hard in front of him and he couldn't avoid. At Bonneville the officials were considering not allowing him to run because of poor brakes (the originals). His response was "my purpose is to go fast, I won't be using the brakes!":lol3
  13. tathambenjamin

    tathambenjamin Been here awhile

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    anyone know if they sell those online? They had a pair of Dunstall's up on their website that look similar, but I thin they are longer and have a different tip.....
  14. phactory

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    My fairing is a bit different than that especially around where the handlebars are. Here is one shot, I will post another better picture this weekend.

    PhacK

  15. KaiWE

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    Well, the reverse cones are some unbranded universal stuff from a local brit bike guy, don't have any more info - I'll ask him next time I drop by...
    They're quite noisy, but the sound is perfect :D

    You'll find some quite similar, guess they might even be the same, if you download the catalog from http://www.unityequipe.com


    And mymindsok - cool to hear that you think my bike is cute! (but it is a Ducati 900SS fairing, not a Dunstall :wink: )
  16. phactory

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    I finally got around to taking some pics of the Magni fairing I want to reproduce. let me know if you are interested. At this time i have no idea on cost, but if the more I can have ade the cheaper it will be.

    Thanks, Phil
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    Pic 2

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    phactory Motorcycle Rescue

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    Here is the fairing on the bike.

    PhacK
  20. Hawk Medicine

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    Thats a very nice fairing indeed! Where'd you find it?

    If youre planning to have copies produced, whos going to be doing the molding?

    I'd certainly be interested in buying one and even more interested if I knew how it mounts and whether mounts would be included.

    If you could use the standard RS/RT type headlight bracket, it would mean that you could use that as a pattern to make something much nicer.