BMW G650X Issue Log (xCountry, xChallenge, xMoto)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by andrewgore, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. DESERT SCORPION

    DESERT SCORPION SINGLE TRACK

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    I have had my X-Challenge lose coolant from time to time. I always thought it was percolation from a hot motor right after shut off. Recently I have noticed that the level goes down while the bike is sitting unridden in my unheated barn. I had the bike in the garage for some maintenance and discovered coolant dripping onto the floor. It was coming from either end of the connector pipe above the exhaust header. Apparently the hoses have taken a 'set' and the clamping action of the cheap crimped-on hose clamps is now insufficient to maintain a good seal. Of course there is no way to tighten the clamps, so I replaced them all with quality stainless steel aircraft style clamps. Wow! No more leaks or loss of coolant.

    THE SCORPION
  2. plumber mike

    plumber mike Highdive Deepened

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    I too have expierienced a loss of coolant. I have already replaced my clamps(crap, for sure!) I guess I don't know where it's going. I keep my bike in a heated garage and have noticed no leaking coolant.

    Bad head gasket? I don't know and it didn't seem like enough to worry about, but it was about half of the overflow tank that came up missing. I really haven't checked as often as I should. I have already had a pinhole in the rad from a rock shot, but successfully repaired that. It could be a leak that only appears when hot.

    Keep us posted,

    Mike
  3. Max Kool

    Max Kool Xtankteam™

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    About the bad starting on a hot engine.

    Do any of you see a relationship between this issue, and valve clearance (too tight)?
  4. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

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    Use aftermarket pads, mine stopped howling immediately and has never come back. My oem ones were greased, sanded back etc by the dealer and it would be okay for a day or two and then it came back again. Fitted aftermarket pads and no more noise.
  5. dustdonkey

    dustdonkey Been here awhile

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    Hi guys,
    Bought a 2009 X-Country with 5k miles today. When I switch the ignition on there is a reading on the display "17" together with the "Wheel" icon on the right of the screen. This stays for about a second and then disappears. Bike runs perfectly.

    What is this all about?
  6. Max Kool

    Max Kool Xtankteam™

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    Speedo wheel setting (17" is correct setting).
  7. dustdonkey

    dustdonkey Been here awhile

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  8. DiscoDino

    DiscoDino Long timer

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    Hey there - been searching on the bike, in the manual, and online for this topic: is there something that needs changing when installing LED turn signals in place of the OEM ones? I bough an LED flasher relay but don't see where the OEM one fits...thoughts? Anyone install LED turn signals and the flashing rate went well without any alterations?

    FYI: when I installed LEDs on my truck I changed the flasher relay but I knew where it was :evil

    Thanks in advance (and apologies for the cross-post, just trying to get the maximum feedback)

    Nadim
  9. QUIRKSM

    QUIRKSM Been here awhile

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    Disco- you need to put a resistor inline to the leds to provide enough resistance for the flasher to work properly. I just left mine alone, it blinks faster but i figure that will get peoples attention more so than the regular speed.

    Year-2007
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    Mods-unifilter and remus titanium
    Mileage-13500

    Problem-I noticed air bubbles in my oil resevior after a ride the other day. Wondering if this is normal operation because of the oil moving from the engine to the resevoir or if it is a sign of something wrong. I have never really payed that much attention to if there was bubbles or not before.
  10. QUIRKSM

    QUIRKSM Been here awhile

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    Well I've been searching around and have found many cases where people are saying that small bubbles in the oil is normal for this engine, so i guess I"m just being paranoid. It still seems like something is off though, I'll change the oil and check a few more things this weekend and if i don't see anything obvious i'll say screw it and ride.
  11. Don't shoot me!!!

    Don't shoot me!!! Snowflakes are cold...

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    The flasher relay is a buildt inn unit in the dash...
  12. SCflyer

    SCflyer Long timer

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    I cut into the fitted end of the #4 hose where it points to towards the engine and now it leaks a bit. May not be a worry but like things neat and...not leaking. The cost is about $17.00 so may order another but curious if anyone has replaced this hose with one from a yamahondazuki shop, autozone etc.
    I split it using a dremel to get the "special tool required" hose clamp off to replace them with...:huh the simpler ones shown on the fiche. Funny the ones I cut off aren't the ones they have here.

    Thanks folks
  13. Muddler

    Muddler Been here awhile

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    any leak is definitely a problem
    I marked my hose trying to fit my TT tank. Is that how you damaged yours?
    I would like to replace my hoses with silicone hose to provide added protection against the hot header issue
    Agree it would be interesting to know of any non-BMW hoses that might fit.....anyone??
  14. SCflyer

    SCflyer Long timer

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    No, I was just cutting them to replace them with the easier "no special tool required" clamp.
  15. Muckpee

    Muckpee Noobie Adventurer

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    Description of Failure(s): Clamp thing that holds headlight bulb to the back of the headlight glass has seperated. Two of the four tiny little indents in the thin metal have given way. Now the bulb floats around giveing me about 3 feet of visibility at night...

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    Resolution (if any): Drill and tap a few tiny screws into the bulb holder metal??? No way im paying ~300$ for new headlight assembly!
    EDIT: JB WELDED
    This happen to anyone else?

    PS: Checked my idle actuator valve (its been about 500km) and it only had a very thin layer of black sooty buildup sso far. (Removing right side cover provides direct access to the idle actuator)
  16. dirtsurfer

    dirtsurfer Challenged Adventurer

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    I think you just need a resistor for each pair, something like this http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LED-Bulb-Tur...rcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a6af1a10
  17. DiscoDino

    DiscoDino Long timer

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  18. SCflyer

    SCflyer Long timer

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    I put the LED inserts in that "cooksabit" and employee sells - front and back. They had a fast rate until I cranked the bike just to see. I think the battery was a tad low on charge. Engine running - no problem, but maybe a faster rate will get folks attention better anyway.
  19. dirtsurfer

    dirtsurfer Challenged Adventurer

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    Yeah his inserts have built in resistors
  20. matloik

    matloik kludge

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    So here's the poop: Fork seals were blown. Brought the bike in as I didn't have time to do them myself. To my surprise they were covered under warranty. I have about 3 weeks left. Had them also check the battery as I was starting to experience difficult starting after stopping for a bit, e.g. for gas. Sure enough, the battery was not holding a charge. This was the 3rd battery from BMW ... but they were not going to warranty it. I had to get a battery right then as I was heading out on a over-nighter, otherwise I would have waited for a Odyssey.

    And wouldn't you know it, I got stranded by the ignition switch at my first gas stop as I was heading out to meet some guys for a ride and camp. At first I thought it was a bum battery, but a little jiggle to the wires going up into the key switch caused the instrument panel to tweak out (that's a technical electrical term :lol3). Well crap. And, well, I'm glad to have read about this problem right here in this thread. And, luckiliy, there was an auto parts store right next door. Went in and bought a toggle switch, some 10 g wire and 4 alligator clips. I needed to make some jumper cables as I drained the battery trying to coax it to start.

    I will of course be bringing the bike in to get BMW to pay for a new switch. I'll grumble about the battery again too.

    Below are a couple pics of the surgery and temporary ignition switch. Got that all buttoned up, and then plugged into a donor battery on a Harley to get started. Tim in Yelp, WA, was nice enought to come back with his bike after noticing me wiring things up.

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