BMW G650X Issue Log (xCountry, xChallenge, xMoto)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by andrewgore, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. JonBryant

    JonBryant Adventurer

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    Funny, mine is the opposite, if i let it sit for 10 minutes i can't get it to idle. It'll fire up then die. Same thing happens when it's cold after a night sitting. Love the bike, but might find something different (F800GS):evil
  2. Butters

    Butters Kwyjibo

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    Just curious . . . do you guys still have your charcoal canisters? Just wondering if it could be a venting issue collapsing a fuel line. Not sure if that's even possible, but I can't really visualize the setup in my head. But I've heard of similar things in cars.
  3. August West

    August West Wharf Rat

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    No canister on mine.
  4. JonBryant

    JonBryant Adventurer

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    nope, no canister either.
  5. wiggins

    wiggins Adventurer

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    Guys, my bike 2009 XCountry when new would not restart a lot of times after riding, but would always start cold. I took it back to the dealer and after a lot of trial and error they said the injector was sticking. They called Germany and talked to a head engineer and he thought it was because of the ethanol in our fuel. Ethanol has some water in it and the injector being new and tight was seizing up because of the water content. They replaced the injector and again it would not start after being warmed up, I called the dealer from the side of the road and he said to tap the injector with a screwdriver with the key on and then see if it startes, it started every time I tapped the injector. I figured out the injector needed some lubrication so I started adding 2 stroke oil to the fuel every time I fuel up, after that it has never failed to start hot or cold. I would put in one bottle of the 2 stroke oil (just a couple on ounces) like you use on a chainsaw, I did this for about 500 to 750 miles and then quit using the 2 stroke oil and it has been starting every time. You can take the seat off and look towards the front under the plastic and see the injector with just enough room to tap the injector (again with the key to the run position) and mine would always fire up when hot.
    The bike now has about 6,000 miles on it and it has not given me any more problems, I only used the 2 stroke for about 5 or 6 tank refuelings. I think the new injector just need a little lubrication until it loosened up.
  6. GSALite

    GSALite Been here awhile

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    Nice! I will have to remember that. Thanks for the info.
  7. Max Kool

    Max Kool Xtankteam™

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    Still thinking the cause for bad starting on a hot engine is the autodecompression lever. Lever stuck in "closed" position. Compression too big, starter has a hard job to cranck the engine, and bike won't start.

    I checked mine the other day (removed valve cover) and found the side surface is a bit rough. I will remove it and try to polish the sides. Which I can't do on my own, because you need to release the cam chain tension "with a proper tool" before removal of the exhaust camshaft.

    ...which I don't have..
  8. Lankbrown

    Lankbrown No Pain No Gain

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    Problem solved. The wife cleaned the throttle body, she refuses to clean the mud off the bike for me but give her some part to clean and it comes back spotless. Replaced the Idle Control Device and put in a new set of spark plus and no more missfire no more fast idle and the bike feels normal.

    Going away this week end and expect to do 1500+k's in OZ we always do alot of k's and hopefully things will run smoothly.
  9. Miguel Pedro

    Miguel Pedro Adventurer

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    Hi to all!
    Last month my free wheel died!!
    Let me share with you all the work I done.
    1st, I had to make my on puller (BMW in Portugal don’t sell them)
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    2nd , with the help of some heat I pull the magnetic well out
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    3 The free wheel was completed wasted.
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    These parts are very expensive, so I decide to put only the free wheel. KTM uses the same free wheel and is cheaper!!
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    After some polish, the three parts are ready to put together:
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    Now the bike starts very well, I’m very satisfied with the job!!

    SKF makes a free wheel with the right dimensions for the X, but seems like that they don’t sell it to public!!!!!
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  10. imeny

    imeny Been here awhile

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    Thanks for sharing :clap with us.
  11. DocRogers

    DocRogers Been here awhile

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    I'm gonna have to try that with the big bike (1200 GSA) - I've had the injectors cleaned twice :eek1 on what is still essentially a new bike (4K miles). Thanks!
  12. jezuar

    jezuar NO NI NA

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    Same here else, I think it's the sensor temperature in the radiator

    That makes me think that the warning light check high temperature multifunction display does not light in the pre-ride check.
  13. FinnDuro

    FinnDuro Winter wonderlanding

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    Max, you don't actually need a special tool for the cam chain. The chain has just enough slack in it, to remove the camshafts as is. First remove the intake camshaft, then the exhaust autocomp side camshaft can be popped out, as well. Same story when you need to adjust your valve cleareances. Been there done that.

    I'd check the valve clearances, intake side may be too tight - resulting in bad hot starting especially.
  14. dajg

    dajg dajg

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    does anyone have a step by step guide to checking valve clearances? what tools are required and what measurements are you looking for?

    cheers
    dave
  15. FinnDuro

    FinnDuro Winter wonderlanding

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    The procedure is the same as for earlier F650GS/Dakar models. We just have less stuff to remove.
    So F650.com FAQs ( http://faq.f650.com/GSFAQs/Valve_Shim_Change_FAQ_GS.htm ) get it done. I used the "Alternative method/ABS bikes" method describe there, as it is the easiest, least parts off type of method.
  16. Colebatch

    Colebatch "Moto Porn"ographer

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    Can you give us the KTM part number please Miguel?
  17. joenuclear

    joenuclear Planning.....

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    Walter, it looks like the part # is in the picture. :D
  18. Colebatch

    Colebatch "Moto Porn"ographer

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    Hmmmm Just checked it on another computer and sure enough there is a picture of the part number.

    For some reason it wasnt loading on my other computer :)
  19. jtw000

    jtw000 Survivor

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    A KTM part cheaper than a BMW part? This is a sign of the apocalypse. The world is going to end this year! In England they're twice or three times more expensive, in Thailand it's the other way round but here, the BMW dealers are pretty terrible.
    I have an issue. My Garmin GPS packed in. Does that qualify? It was mounted on the bike at the time.
  20. DESERT SCORPION

    DESERT SCORPION SINGLE TRACK

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    I love my BMW even though it stalls all the time on warmup.
    I love my BMW even though it has a rear brake that squeals like a pig when I use it.
    I love my BMW even though the rear brake is dragging. Maybe that's why it squeals like a pig.
    I love my BMW even though attempts to bleed the rear master cylinder add air to the system.
    I love my BMW even though now the rear brake is mushy as a marshmallow about to fall off the stick.
    I love my BMW even though it appears that the rear master cylinder is trash & only costs $175 to replace.
    I love my BMW even though there is no rebuild kit for this glorious master cylinder.
    I love my BMW even though the offending assembly got trashed because it holds water.
    I love my BMW even though the sealing boot of said assembly seals well at the pushrod, but not at all at the housing.
    I love my BMW even though this worthless boot acts just like a Dixie cup full of water and stays wet internally eternally. I love my BMW even though this condition has corroded everything in sight at the mouth of this crumby little assembly.
    I love my BMW even though it gives me writers cramp venting.

    THE SCORPION