BMW G650X Issue Log (xCountry, xChallenge, xMoto)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by andrewgore, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. FinnDuro

    FinnDuro Winter wonderlanding

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    My Shorai is a "summer battery", both of the two that I've sampled. Soon as the temps go anywhere near cold let alone freezing point, problem arise, and it seems to take forever for the battery to really wake up and start the bike. Takes like 15mins or so, and I do know the drill required. Unfortunately, cannot promote Shorai for Xchallenge.
  2. pampaX

    pampaX Been here awhile

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    I have a gravity 8 cell and when its cold (-2 to +6 C) it takes a while to start the bike .. have to crank it 6+ times as well as turn ignition on an wait a few minutes ... may be that a bigger one is needed. However it always started and charge seems always ok and is very small and ligth
  3. SCflyer

    SCflyer Long timer

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    Can you advise how you did this?
  4. Butters

    Butters Kwyjibo

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    As much as I hope your Shorai battery fixes your bike's woes, I'm inclined to think the problem lies elsewhere.

    Yes, the bike needs a working battery. But ANY working battery should be fine. Even an Exide is fine - until it fails. When the Exide fails, a cell goes bad and you have a battery making <10v. That doesn't fly. But any WORKING battery with 12v should do the job.

    The ignition switch is a somewhat common failure point. You pop off the dome-shaped bottom of the ignition switch and you'll see where the wires are soldered. Several people had those solder joints fail. Could be due to bad soldering, poor strain relief of the wiring harness, also aggravated by bumpy offroad riding.

    I checked mine as PM, and they were fine. But based upon your issues, it is certainly worth checking that as failure point. Your bike seems to have an intermittent electrical gremlin more than a battery issue. Unless your batteries are actually failing.
  5. Miguel Pedro

    Miguel Pedro Adventurer

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    Greetings to all!
    The polishing of the freewhel and freewhel and housing did not result!
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    As the price of these parts is absurd, I decided to repair the old ones.
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    I think that was a great job, better than new!

    I put a hardned ring on each piece.
    A week later and many startups, everything works perfectly!!
  6. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    What do you mean?
  7. Butters

    Butters Kwyjibo

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    On the BMW microfiche it lists part#61 21 7726563, which is a 10AH AGM battery. Although it doesn't list the brand, the screw set for that battery is listed as being YUASA. I would assume if you order that part number you would get a YUASA battery. Another dealer lists the manufacturer as "Genuine BMW." Of course BMW doesn't make batteries, but again I assume it is just a rebadged YUASA.

    I would probably get an Odyssey battery if I wanted something different, although I have no issues with YUASA. But if I was planning on going somewhere really remote, I would probably keep a spare Shorai or similar in my luggage.
  8. Tomdog

    Tomdog Mapaholic

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    Now you are talking; I've been thinking about carrying a Shorai as back up or even installing a two battery system using Lithium technology, with a change over switch.
  9. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    I still don't get you. You said that BMW needs to "man up"--in giant red letters. What's that all about? And you say this because independent battery retailers don't list the G650XC in their online lists of bikes? What does this have to do with BMW?

    As Butters points out above, if you want to buy a replacement battery from a BMW dealer, it has a part number like any other part. Just buy it.

    Personally, I think BMW went above and beyond when it recalled ALL Exide batteries after the failure of a few on our bikes, instead of just replacing the ones that had failed. In my case, I replaced the Exide with an Odyssey before the recall. The next time I had the bike in for service, BMW handed me a brand new Yuasa battery in a box, even though I didn't need it or want it. What kind of crazy service is that? The service I get at my local dealer (South Sound BMW) is the best.
  10. satur9

    satur9 angry black guy

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    really? I replaced mine with an odessy. and they told me to come in for recall I said I already changed it can I just have the new one they said no. bmwmoc.
  11. aprilian

    aprilian Can I change this?

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    I know it is an Arayan bike, but I didn't realize it ran on "white power" :eek1
  12. maltese

    maltese Adventurer

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    Wanted to check in about the Full Spectrum Power Pulse 2 battery (A123 type) I am running. The thing has been working without a hitch, except one funny thing... i guess the connections were old on the wires.. one snapped off after applying throttle really heavily and setting the front wheel down very ungracefully... easy fix and the bike has been starting up like a champ.
  13. kito

    kito Been here awhile

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    I have 2 problems with my x challenge . 1 MPG is getting worse somtimes as low as 40mpg I used to get over 70 mpg and the speedo is bugging me big time it started buy showing the speed I was traveling and then flashing to about 2/3 of the speed . now it just keeps changing everry few seconds and shows what ever speed it feals like . I have tryed dielectrode greese on the terminal and I have tryed opening the unit to spray some contact cleaning spray
  14. MTBiker78

    MTBiker78 ENDURO Wanabee

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    for a speedo problem just check condition of abs/speedo sensor located under left side of swingarm, and an ring on rear wheel hub. distance from sensor to ring must be constant and ring itself must be ideal (you can take it out and lay on flat surface to check if it was not bend anywhere). sensor connectior is placed under seat - you can check contact there also
  15. kito

    kito Been here awhile

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    thanks for the tip ill look at those things but the funny thing is the speed display is all over the place but the odometer reading seams to be ok
  16. Colebatch

    Colebatch "Moto Porn"ographer

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    Yeah sounds like you dented the speedo ring putting the rear wheel back in --- that makes the speedo fluctuate
  17. kito

    kito Been here awhile

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    looked at the ring today and the is a small dent in it i will sort it out in a few days time . hope that sorts it out
  18. HH060g

    HH060g Adventurer

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    I have a 2007 Xmoto. 8,000 ish miles. i just bought it used a little bit back. It has the starting, then stalling out issue. I have taken the Idle actuator out and cleaned it until it was spotless. After i reassembled it, the bike started great for the first 3 times, then it went back to its old ways... tried resetting the throttle position using the method mentioned several times through out this thread to no avail. But this problem isnt my biggest issue. My bike is also, blessed with the hot start or hot wont start issue. I know it isnt my battery. I have read in a few places that it is the decompression lever, or it could be the vavles, or the camshaft.. I am looking for any one that has a solid answer on what it could be, before i start ripping into the bike. I am leaning towards the decompression lever, since when i try to start it, the starter sounds like it is fighting against the motor.. i have no experience with BMW's but i am hoping it isnt anything too complex...:rofl. Any words of wisdom from some of you folks that have dealt with this issue would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!!
  19. aprilian

    aprilian Can I change this?

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    Load test the battery if you don't know its age. Or you can charge it and see if the bike starts easier immediately after coming off the charger.
  20. HH060g

    HH060g Adventurer

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    It has a yuasa battery but i dont know how old it is. I will play with it and report back.