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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by whittrated03, Apr 25, 2012.
The FJR is a freaking anvil, go ahead and pound on it. It'll take it and ask for more.
lmfao I've never seen so many sandy vaginas in one place! Not sure what the OP was expecting though
I think the OP was either expecting exactly what he got (troll), or is completely clueless (tool).
I've had two 5 series (E28 and E39), and prior to those, a Jetta GLX. They were all awesome to drive. They all had problems, and when they had them, they were expensive. I always say I'll never buy another one, but that's a lie.
I've never had a BMW bike, but lust after several, and will own one sooner or later. My KTM is a lusty object. It is for sure more problematic than some Japanese bikes I have owned. It's worth it.
I just don't lust after a Strom. I'd own one, maybe. I have a Kia Spectra that I use for work. I don't lust after it, either, but it does it's job and serves it's purpose. Maybe a Strom is like a Kia Spectra?
All newer internal combustion powered vehicles tend toward greater complexity.
Stuff like ABS, antiskid, traction control, stability control, adjustable-rate
suspension, etc. significantly increases complexity. In the old days that stuff simply did not
exist, so it couldn't be a problem. Any engineer can tell you that with increased parts count
comes a greater chance of problems. Google "tin whiskers" and you will perhaps suspect
( as I do ) that black boxes in consumer level products are going to be "the gift that keeps on giving"
as they age.
The nice thing is, there are plenty of old bikes still around for those who prefer simplicity.
And there are brand new bikes for those who want the latest cool stuff.
You pay your money and you take your choice.
It doesn't get much better than that.
Talk about masterbaters, quit beating (it) around the bush (pun intended) and tell us what you really think.
I suspect that there will still be /2's on the road long after most of todays BMW's have become toasters. These high tech bikes may work great when new, but they won't age gracefully.
"Mica Peak", great site, somewhat BMW centric but has 100's of owner reviews on most everything. Owners tend to post their riding resumes for reference. Very enlightening if you have an open mind.
It has been a little interesting to read over in GSpot the number of guys with later model GS/GSAs that recommend either purchasing an extended warranty or selling the bike and buying new when the factory warranty expires.
I've wondered if this a function of the cost to repair when breakdowns inevitably occur as with all bikes or a function of increased frequency of breakdowns. Typically extended warranties are money makes for the underwriter and I've never wished in hindsight I had purchased one. Of couse I've modified almost all my bikes essentially voiding the standard factory warranty within a couple months of ownership.
No personal experience with BMW bikes but have 2 buddies with GSAs one with an 07 and the other an 09. The 07s on it's second fuel strip, required its 3rd battery today, and had the ABS unit replaced just outside of warranty along with a few recall items like the antenna ring. The 09 has been trouble free to date aside from 3 fuel strips, all replaced under warranty.
I've always felt if an extended warranty is justified than the product is either flawed, or too complex/expensive to own and not worth the hassle.
This has been the case with BMW autos for a long time, nice cars but you don't want to pay for repairs on your dime..
you want BMW GS reliability?
get an Airhead! preferably a monolever with little as possible electronics of any kind.
Yeah, cause we all know they required zero maintenance, and nothing ever broke on them!
Funny you mention it....I just bought a very low mileage used 2011 128i and grilled my GSA riding buddy about the reliaiblity of his 03 330Ci.
I bought a used 85 325e from my dad right out of college and loved that car but I couldn't swing both the monthly payment and the repair bill so I traded it on a new Honda Accord.
Buddy didn't do much to reassure me that the new 128i would not end up the same but as a CPO car they extended the warranty considerably and it should be paid for in a few years so I won't have to pay the note and the repairs at the same time. Also as a second car it won't see as much annual mileage so I'm hoping to get 5-7 trouble free years...time will tell.
You'll be fine in a CPO'd 128i...
I've had a bunch of BMW cars, even notoriously "bad" ones as far as maintenance goes, and never had any problems that weren't covered by the warranty. My CPO'd 325xi is almost 6 years old now and has been fine other than some warranty fixes although I am going to preemptively do some serious maintenance on it at 60k miles. Serpentine belt, water pump and hoses will all get done since they are approaching the window for potential failure.
Just like the bikes, some BMW cars get a bad rep for issues that are relatively rare, but because of the internet people think the cars have a 100% failure rate for part X, which is never the case. My M Roadster was known for the engine bearing failure and subframe ripping apart, neither occurred. My old 335 was known for notorious HPFP issues, turbo wastegate rattle, fuel injector problems, etc... no issues for me, etc, etc, etc...
The most reliable BMW cars are the X3 and the Z4 according to a factory mechanic friend of mine IIRC but like most vehicles, if you take care of it, they all are reliable (except old Jags).
I've got a 2000 BMW 528i wagon with 317,000 miles. Besides things that just plain wear out after hundreds of thousands of miles, it hasn't been any sort of a headache to maintain.
Very effective troll. Well done!
ETA: Make your next post about clean GS's in front of a restaurant, and don't forget to threaten to buy the site.
Got my '86 325es. 176 k miles. Runs like new. Water pump and timing belt every 60k miles. Check the valves once in a while.
Every summer the roads in Yellowstone are littered with BMW cars and motorcyles. They block traffic with sudden unexplained breakdowns. Don't know how you f.....s down in LA get around with all the damn faulty German machinery sold down there.
I really like many of the BMW bikes including the GS/GSA series. But, I would be concerned about reliability if I was going to buy one. IMO for the price they should be more reliable than most other bikes not less. It does seem like most BMW bikes have a higher cost of ownership than their japanese counterparts. But, many people seem to think it's worth it.
I love all motorcycles and I could probably even enjoy riding some scooters. For now, I will stick with my strom because it fits my wants, needs and budget quite well. But, I will refrain from throwing stones at other makes because my wee-strom is not the only good bike in the world.