BMW Jackets

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  1. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    Looks like I`ll be getting my trusty Rallye2 jacket replaced after my recent off and am considering buying a BMW Airshell or Boulder jacket. Has anyone had any experience with either of these jackets? Pro`s/cons?
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  2. Hikertrash

    Hikertrash Long timer

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    I had the Airshell for a couple months. I bought it for a year round jacket, but it was too hot and heavy for summer. The back pad which is extra is very thick and will offer great protection. The dealer said the Boulder is cut the same. The dealer out me in an XL which fit fine with the liner, but was way too big without it and most of my riding was done without the liner. It was my first jacket and I don't think I would buy one again knowing what else is out there. I had the hiviz version.
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  3. IKIGAI

    IKIGAI Been here awhile

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    I have both.

    Bought the Boulder first, in '05 or '06 I think, but found it too warm for anything but late fall or high mountain riding. Never ever 'unzipped' the sleeves -- don't know why they ever bothered with that little fashion-enhancement.

    The Airshell faded to a soft lemony yellow within the first 10 days -- shoulders, back yoke, and a bit of the chest. And it's a bugger to keep clean, but washes up fairly easily.
    The updated back amour for the Airshell is better (more ventilation) than the piece that came with the Boulder, and the shoulder/elbow pieces are exactly the same.

    None of the zips or snaps have ever failed me (on either jacket). And I do miss the chest pockets that come on the Boulder, but no chest pockets is to be expected with a jacket designed for airflow.

    With the quilted liner installed on the Airshell, and an electric vest under that, you can ride comfortably through the mountain passes till the snow flies.
    I've ridden through Panamint Valley in July, and with a soaker vest underneath it made the 118F ride bare-able.
    So it's fairly close to being a 'full riding season' road jacket for me. I'm assuming your application is for road riding only -- I wouldn't take either of these for a ride through the brush. Who would want high-vis for dusty, muddy, off-road riding anyway?

    I think they are both good jackets for the money.
    If I was to spend the coin again, I would purchase just the Airshell and pack an electric vest along with the liner for those late season high mountain/evening rides.


    Come to think of it, the Boulder is still hanging up in the closet (I haven't touched it since I bought the Airshell in '08) and I should really get rid of it.
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  4. Boondox

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    Can't comment on the Boulder, but given the heat down south I chose the two year old Airshell as my sole jacket on the ride to and from the MOA Rally in MO. It was a good choice. When I first got it I missed the extra pockets in the RevIt that it replaced (the RevIt fell apart after one year of use) but the air flow was really appreciated in the 108F heat of Missouri.

    It fits well, has remained very supple over the past two years and 20k miles, and while it faded a bit it's still very noticeable. Best of all, after my disastrous experience with RevIt, the jacket has stood the test of time and repeated washings very well.

    I ride with a long sleeved LD Comfort shirt underneath it. Wet in the summer and dry in the winter. Below 40F I insert the liner. Below 30F I hang it up and break out the Stich with multiple layers underneath. Below 20F I add the Gerbings.:D
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  5. I-Su.Yu

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    BMW Airshell's excellent.
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  6. QBZ

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    I have a boulder 1. The armor feels like it would be comfortable in a crash. :D It is too hot for summer. I also never zipped off the sleeves but I could see if you had something like a bag or backpack to put them in it could be useful on a trip. It is a well made jacket. Small letters in orange on the front pocket. Good reflective arm patches and thin stripe on the back. It's a good winter jacket.

    I like the features on my dainese ddry for all seasons. It also has the zip off sleeves. Never unzipped either.
    The main features I like about this jacket is it has a large pouch on the back, the sleeves have large zip vents (bicep to wrist). It even has a cellphone membrane so you can easily access it for music or calls. I got it in Green, it looks good in Black to but I have an Atlantis 3 so I got a different color.

    [​IMG]
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  7. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    Thanks for those comments, people, they pretty much sum up what I have discovered elsewhere. Looks like the boulder is not a goer, but the Airshell is worth consideration; I priced one today......Aus$950.00. :eek1
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  8. IKIGAI

    IKIGAI Been here awhile

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    Sweet Jesus!,....that would buy a lotta bundaberg!

    Well they do show up the odd time in the flea market, perhaps you should put in a 'want-to-buy' notice and maybe you'll get lucky.
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  9. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    Or maybe I`ll try some other brand. I`ll be hanging onto the Gore-Tex liner when I send the Rallye2 to the insurers and have been looking at Joe Rocket stuff which I like very much. Haven`t totally given up on the Airshell though.
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  10. Xeraux

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    Also, keep in mind the current Boulder jacket is waxed cotton.
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  11. Hikertrash

    Hikertrash Long timer

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    Have you looked at Revit's copy of the Airshell?
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  12. cliffy109

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    Why not the Tourshell? THe advantages are many. It has a waterproof shell for starters which means no stopping to put in a liner if it rains. Venting is fairly decent if reviews are to be believed. It comes with a thermal liner which should keep you warm down to sub-freezing temps. My only criticism of it is the colors. I don't like black because of the heat and the gray is just too... pavement colored. I would love one in a gray/hi-viz combo or even just a straight red.

    BTW... I own an Airshell and love it for hot summer days. I hate using the liner. The pockets are too shallow as well and it does fade. It is comfortable though and armor is good. My other jacket is a BMW Tourance II which is now discontinued but had the same advantages as the new Tourshell. Some dealers have leftover Tourance jackets on sale.
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  13. Schnickelfritz

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    I liked my Boulder but it was too hot and I never removed the sleeves anyway. I like my Cayenne better, esp if I want lots of pockets, but it's not waterproof. I like my ComfortShell best - c-change mat'l is waterproof w/o needing a liner and gives wide temp range (40F-90F for my comfort), better venting than Boulder, great fit for me, black so it goes with my evening wear. Sleeve vents (like my old AST) and black reflective bits and more of them (instead of just the white chevrons on the shoulders) are the only improvements I'd suggest. It's been replaced this year by the TourShell.
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  14. I-Su.Yu

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    Now and then, like today, a used Airshell turns up in the flea market. I've also seen new ones for sale during the winter months in the US for $325 USD. At SF BMW.
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  15. IKIGAI

    IKIGAI Been here awhile

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    Yep. The OP should be jumping on that deal.

    I also wear an XL, and have a 45 inch (114ish cm) chest and a 23 inch (58 cm) arm. And I have enough room (just) to accommodate a thin windstopper jacket, and electric vest with the liner installed.

    And whole jacket, armour and liner installed, (just took mine of the hanger and plopped it on the kitchen scale) weighs in at just a tad over 2.5 kilo's, if you are wondering about shipping rates.
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    Can you get Motoport gear in Australia? It would be worth emailing Wayne to see if he can ship there. It's expensive but is fantastic. I still have my BMW Trailguard jacket and Rallye 3 pants but have not worn them since I got the kevlar mesh gear from Motoport. Good stuff worth the money.
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  17. xtendqi

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    I bought the BMW K1600 GTL and gear. I AM IN LOVE with my bike!!! BUT the AIRSHELL jacket has a VERY serious problem: YES, it keeps you dry, but by combining both water resistance AND warmth, you end up sweating inside the jacket to the point of needing to change your shirt. I live in Portland, Oregon, where we get about 42 inches of rain a year. Temp in winter is about 30-45 degrees, which feels like 20 due to humidity. I actually wear a T-shirt under my airshell jacket, and I'm still warm (I weigh 165 lbs, 5'11"). The Olympia Motosport jacket I bought for my wife has TWO LINERS: one for rain, and one for warmth...BRILLIANT! I requested that BMW give me credit, not a refund, for another comparable jacket that has two liners, but they refused, saying that the Airshell performs as designed. I, of course, am very bent out of shape after spending $27,000 on the K1600; expecting to get better treatment. BOTTOM LINE: BUY A JACKET THAT HAS TWO LINERS, ONE FOR RAIN, ONE FOR WARMTH, AND HAS THE KEVLAR ARMOR OR YOU WILL SWEAT TO DEATH EVEN IN WINTER.
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  18. Boondox

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    First of all, I detest jackets with two liners. But to each his or her own. Second, you must live in a very warm place. My Airshell with liner is good down to about 20F; below that a Gerbing's liner is needed. I take the liner out when the temp hits about 50. Above 90 I add a moistened LD Comfort long sleeved shirt underneath. Perfectly comfy up to (so far) 108F
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  19. orgo

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    A couple of people have mentioned the BMW Tourshell. Just how waterproof is it?
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  20. cliffy109

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    Now that this thread got brought up again, I'll comment further on the BMW Tourance 2 jacket. Because it is discontinued, it is now available for $275 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/BMW-Tourance-2-Jacket/dp/B004NTDFBK

    At this price, it is a ridiculous bargain. The shell is absolutely waterproof. I own one and can assure you it will keep water out. It is also very warm when the thermal liner is installed. It does get a bit warm when the temps get above 90F but if you are moving, it isn't horrible. Armor is top notch and it seals out the elements well. The liner is nylon so pulling it on over clothing is fast and easy. At $275, I don't think there is anything close in terms of quality, function and value.
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