bmw plans retro bike

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by datchew, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. dinocarsfast

    dinocarsfast Adventurer

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    I like the idea but no way they will be able to satisfy the riders that like classic bikes because they are simple and cheap.
    It will likely just be styling that makes it retro not as drastic as the new CB1100
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  2. dilandau

    dilandau Been here awhile

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    they should just make an airhead. Why not? Works for guzzi.
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  3. fyr

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    Why not
    Get the luddites to buy in...
    If you say no due to Euro and emission standards then look to Ural.. They can do it.. Based on 1930's BMW and Zunny tech...

    Gimme a flat airhead with 850 cc and shaft drive.. Tart it up any way you see fit..
    Ill add it to the stable with the T100:freaky
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  4. boxerboy81

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    https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/pres...lId=6&id=T0134025EN&left_menu_item=node__6628

    Looks to me like they're up to their ol' tricks to move on the last of the old models.

    Traditionally they do this by announcing a "wonderful" new limited special edition characterised by a unique paint scheme and maybe a limited edition identifying badge. They might throw in another enticement, eg in the case of the US edn. LE '84 Motorsport they added a helmet to the deal.

    The R100RS Motorsport 1978, Last Edition Motorsport 1984, R100RSR, JPS (in Oz), Outback R100, Serie 500 R100RS, R100LT mono, R1100S boxercup replika etc, etc. Other than the 78 the others all represent times of dwindling sales of models being phased out.


    When they do this, it usually results in a beautiful machine, but not necessarily anything that's different under the skin.
    Something else for next year...800GT
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  5. kbasa

    kbasa Roubaix! Super Moderator

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    I'm sure they'll sell all 12 they build and have to market at $500,000 to cover development. You really think anyone is going to buy a hardtail? :norton
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  6. kbasa

    kbasa Roubaix! Super Moderator

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    Because nobody is going to spend $10K for that bike.

    There are bikes we'd like to own because we're vintage people. But there's a reason they stopped selling those old bikes. Technology moved ahead, a more reliable bike appeared, or a lower cost bike arrived.

    In 1993, I went and looked at a K75S with bags. It was, back then, a $10K bike when I could buy a new Honda VFR for half as much. Yeah, the Kbike is a great bike, but the VFR had it outgunned in virtually every measurement of comparison.

    Old bikes are just that: old bikes. When I was in college in the 70s, I had friends that were pissed because UK, INC. wasn't making bikes anymore. You know why? Market forces crushed them. Making old bikes now to satisfy some niche is the realm of small production teams like Dreer, but not in the best interests of manufacturers like BMW or Honda. In this market, they simply can't afford to build bikes that aren't going to be a mass market success. It just costs too much to bring a bike to market to gamble on a potential loser.
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  7. boxerboy81

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    And that's why they market the "special" models 'cause they want to get rid of the last of their stuff as they're already the "old" models.
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  8. blaine.hale

    blaine.hale Long timer

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    BMW is a progressive company, plain and simple. They will continue to push forward in technology and innovation and not look back. When their sales were almost isolated to the 50+ age range, they simply innovated and built the fastest production bike in existence and sold it at a price point that would attract a younger audience.

    For BMW to actually manufacture another airhead they would need to completely retool or redesign current manufacturing processes and machinery. That's a massive investment to gamble on whether or not a vintage re-make would sell.

    What's easier? Shoving the current generation engine into another chassis and calling a "vintage inspired" bike.

    I don't think BMW is about to strike up a deal with Bing or any other carb manufacturer to power an airhead either. Isn't it US law that post 2013 motorcyles are supposed to be fuel injected anyways? That's probably just california (isn't it always) though.
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  10. backdrifter

    backdrifter Wannabe rider

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    I like the way you think, but I would want it to be more like this one. I would line up weeks in advance to throw my money at BMW for this bike!

    [​IMG]
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    That's what I would call a motor writing checks that the brakes and chassis can't cash :lol3
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  12. Schlivitz

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    Retro is only cool if it's field serviceable. BMW will not stand for that.
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    Chevy did build the SSR and HHR, but they didn't sell. They were all looks and no substance. The SSR was a modern Corvette in a truck body, and the price was ridiculous.

    Ducati had the right idea with the SportClassic and SportClassic Paul Smart model. The Paul Smart bike looked almost like the early '70s 750ss, possibly the most coveted Ducati of all time.

    BMW could certainly make a retro replica that only looks old, but with modern mechanicals, IMO it would be more attractive to me than what they are selling now,

    I wish they still made the R1200C. I almost bought one. By the time I could come up with the cash (did not want a loan) they were gone. I loved the first ones, but they kept modifying them and adding more and more junk. The last ones looked more like Goldwings than cruisers. I might still buy an early model but there are none for sale. Most likely owners do not want to part with them

    Harley sells retro bikes, and people complain that that's ALL they sell. (especially since they dropped Buell) Maybe people just don't want a retro bike from BMW. Unlike the Japanese, BMW does have REAL history and heritage they could draw from, at least from a stylistic perspective.
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  15. peterman

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    there is a kit available that looks pretty good,,and ONLY 5 GRAND!
    www.unitgarage.com
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  16. gspell68

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    I could totally see myself on one of these...

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  17. ViperJustin

    ViperJustin Retired HH60G Gunner

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    Oh, mother of god.... I love it!!!!!! Ive been wanting a r100gspd for awhile now, but this takes the cake for me.
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  18. ikonoklass

    ikonoklass Kountersteering Krew

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    I had a 2004 R1200CLC with the fairing and the hard bags. It was a seriously effed-up looking bike, but I would have kept it indefinitely if it only had some power.
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  19. motu

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    Weren't the Mono's a retro bike ? BMW make the K bike and wanted to drop the twins, but customer demands made them keep the airheads. There was no way they were on par with a modern bike of the era - gutless and heavy, but they still sold. The R80 and R65 were given K suspension and wheels, and kept the traditional BMW look....and as for the last production run of the Basic - how retro can you get ?
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  20. kbasa

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    :rolleyes

    You can still do every bit of service on a modern hexhead. You're going to need to buy a couple tools, though, notably a micrometer and a couple little gadgets to do the brake bleed.

    In my house, I have a /2, an R100CS and a hexhead. If you can work on one and can think, you can work on any of them.
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