BMW tires that scary?

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Quin, Jan 7, 2013.

  1. Jim Moore

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    It's pretty rare tha you find a tire so out of round that you can feel the difference. I rate balancing as nice-to have but not critical on a GS. On a track bike I would balance them.
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  2. scooteraug02

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    Maybe balancing debate is like an oil thread.


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  3. Disco Dean

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    I get my tires done at DualSport Plus here in Stoney Creek Ontario Canada.

    They don't have a problem with any tires - cost is I think $60 bucks a wheel if they have to take them off or $40 bucks if you bring in the rims. Most times he lets me remove my wheel from the bike in his parking lot and I get them changed and put the thing back on and go home. (don't quote me on that price but it is close...)

    Most times you don't have to wait but they do make so little from a tire change and tires are a pain even with a machine - easy but time.... I do understand.

    That price includes balancing.

    Les (owner) does a good job pricing tires and knows he can't compete with the online companies so offers them up at the same or close to internet prices - he figures you will be in the shop anyway and as he can't make money on them he doesn't sweat it. Smiles and changes the tires. Its like a loss-leader for him.

    I figure it is the same for most all shops but the difference here in Canada is we don't have the silly liability issues like you guys have in the US.
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  4. gastone

    gastone R.I.P. sweet Angus

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    Join a local bmw owners club, or find a nice local inmate who has got a tire changer. If you find yourself in Fredericksburg, va and you need some fresh rubber, I've got a HF unit and a dirty garage, with no balancer. Come over, change your tires and then have a nice ride. Prior to picking up that unit I could think of at least 5 locals that have tire changers they'd let me use.
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  5. WildAnCrazymtl

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    I believe that is really personal choice... If you want to do it quick and cheap check this out!

    http://www.innovativebalancing.com/index.php
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  6. genka

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    I'm sure that these prices include removal and installation of wheels, which may be considerable work on some bikes- I used to own one which required disassembly of the exhaust. GS wheels are super easy to take off thanks to the single sided swingarm and the center stand. I also prefer to install the wheels myself because the excessive torque can do damage.
    Shops around here charge $30-43 per wheel to mount and balance. Not bad for a 15 minute job, including the paperwork.
    Our local BMW dealer refuses to install tires they don't sell, all others are happy to take the money.
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  7. Schlug

    Schlug JockeyfullofBourbon

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    Ask Woody or ANY motorcycle tech how many wheels come in with the stick-on wheel weights missing, having falled off 4,000 miles or so ago with the rider being completely oblivious.

    I have mine balanced but I'm not sure it's completely necessary. I have never balanced a tire on my dirt bikes in my life.
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  8. XB12R

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    I have a NoMar machine and a Marc Pharns balancer. I mount and balance many tires for other riders but generally don't bother to balance my own.
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  9. Multiplicity

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    Balance has nothing to do with tire shape. It evens out the weight distribution of the tire. Tires aren't perfect and have heavy spots. Most static balance out around .25 ounces.
    I've seen .50 on some rear tires.

    I can feel 1/4 ounce out, at 70 MPH. It really shows up at 80 to 85 MPH.
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  10. scooteraug02

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    Someone quoted the BMW shop manual in a tire balance thread. BMW said if the tire requires X of oz a weight wasn't needed. Over X amount add the weight. Don't remember what X was.
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  11. RustyStuff

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    I'd kill to get $8 tire changes!
    Local shop I bought my tires from wanted $90 bucks to do it. The old tires were off the rim's( had to be cut off with a sawzall, they were stuck!)
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  12. Multiplicity

    Multiplicity Been here awhile

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    Yeah and they also say to buy BMW oil :rofl Take it to a BMW service dealer :lol3
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  13. Deans BMW

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  14. scooteraug02

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    Yea but Dean do you change tires for customers who bring in their own tires? If so how much. Or do you make them pay $300 for a $150 tire?

    What brand of tire machine is that?

    Sorry I saw founder San Jose BMW in your signature line thought you had a shop.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118369
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229606
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214506
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11608
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11608
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  15. scooteraug02

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    My owner's manual says to use Castrol not BMW oil.

    My point was it stated a tolerance for balancing. Below a certain weight they said don't bother.
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  16. Disco Dean

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    So, so not fair... nice big windows... wood stove... and $$$ tire changer ease.... I hate you. No really I do. Not really.. but I do. :cry
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  17. Multiplicity

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    They, don't ride my bike :evil
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  18. Multiplicity

    Multiplicity Been here awhile

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    Do you have a link for the tire machine and the balance stand ? Thanks.
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  20. Northern Hooligan

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    I went to Vegas in 2010, before I left I thought I would change the tires on my VFR before I left as they had about 3500 km left on them. Here in Edmonton, Pilot Road 2's frt/rear combined $580.00 and 60.00 per rim off the bike. My reply was no thanks and I left for Vegas and watched the tires melt as I made my way. While in Vegas I went to Cycle Gear first thing on a Monday am, asked how much if I bring the tires in mount and balance... total price was $400.00(ish), walked outside put the bike on the center stand and removed the rims. Service was 100X better than what 2 local dealers gave me. Not the same service attitude when I was in the MC biz.
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