BMW Turn Signal Controls vs. Conventional

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  1. biodieselandon

    biodieselandon Been here awhile

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    Has anyone had any experience with the older style BMW turn signal controls (On any of their bikes, not just the F800)? I am talking about the ones that had buttons on either side of the switch blocks. Just curious if anyone has used them because I seem to only hear complaints about it in almost every review. :ear
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  2. lawe

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    I hope most of us with pre 2013-models have used the turn signals :ricky

    And the opinions about them are many. I like them but the horn switch is hard to find as a consequence.
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  3. markjenn

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    I've used both systems for tens of thousands of miles.

    My personal opinion is that both designs work fine and I don't have a preference for one over the other. But I do care that the design be standardized and since BMW was never going to convince the rest of the world to standardize on their design, I applaud them for bowing to convention and putting conventional turn signal switchgear on their new bikes.

    BTW, while magazines have been generally critical of BMW's non-conventional system, they are some who have a decided preference for them and they're unhappy for the change. Which goes to show you can't satisfy everyone all the time. All engineering decisions have tradeoffs.

    - Mark
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  4. advNZer?

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    people who whinge about the BMW indicators would whinge about something else.If you own a bike with theses indicaators they are quite normal.I grew to prefer them when i had my k100rs.In countries that drive on the left,the indicating to overtaking was a breeze just stick out your thumg as you roll on the throttle and automatically engage the rh indicator.
    Its no different than having a european car and a japanese car,a modern bike and and old british bike..
    As i say a week three rides after buying one you forget all about it
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  5. biodieselandon

    biodieselandon Been here awhile

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    I would probably be one to like it. That's part of the reason I like euro bikes and cars since they tend to be slightly non-conventional with a lot of things. I guess I will have to try a BMW with this setup.
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  6. Snowy

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    I can't understand the fuss over the turn signals. The BMW has far more urgent problems.

    The first time I rode it, it was queer as a hairy egg.

    After that it just works. Swap to my Jap bikes and I get to the end of the street and fumble the turn signals every time, but after that it's ok.

    Fix the wholly inadequate suspension Mr BMW.
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  7. Loutre

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    If I'd wanted some nabby japanese turn signals on my GS I'd have bought the XC :lol3
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  8. biodieselandon

    biodieselandon Been here awhile

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    They should have kept the old style on the 2013.
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  9. JGoody

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    +1 on the horn. Anyone have a solution -- maybe rerouting the horn switch? If so I'd love to see it.
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  10. Emperor Norton

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    I've used them. It took a little while to get used to them after the more conventional single side control. Even after acclimation the horn button still vexed me. Not better or worse imo, just different.
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  11. Dieselpwr

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    I prefer the conventional single button for turn signals. Sometimes when accelerating my thumb is not in the right position to activate or deactivate the signal.
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    Same here and the location of the horn. I got use to it but sometimes it's still awkward and prefer the conventional one.
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  13. sorebutt

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    If you only have the one bike you get use to it. It is a pain in the ass if you have other bikes with standard turn signals. It is like owning one car with the typical gas on the right and brake on the left and another car with the gas on the left and brake on the right. Everytime I change bikes I have to look down to figure out where the turn signals are. It takes 2 hands to make a left hand turn with the BMW switches. It just doesn't make sense.
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  14. Snowy

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    I stopped using the horn and started punching mirrors off instead.

    By God, they notice you then.
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    they automatically turn off after 200 meters anyway...
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    Horn being the easiest to access button and the signals being on a single button that goes left and right (a different action than the horn) on the non-throttle-grip hand just makes a lot more sense imo

    The BMW indicators are worse for cancelling signals and for finding the horn because it's harder to cancel while full accelerating and because the horn is in between buttons instead of being the easiest to find in an emergency, and easier to hit by accident

    Waiting for the auto-cancel signal is dangerous and not being able to throttle while cancelling signals is just annoying. I got used to them but it still impacts my riding a bit even though the standard ones never ever did. Just a waste of buttons for a slightly worse setup
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  17. Flashdog

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    I've had both and don't mind either. I actually didn't understand all the fuss.
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  18. kkrider

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    Like the Harley switches. Left on the left right on the right each one cancels out. basic
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  19. Hamish71

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    I definitely prefer the "old" system.
    Had a long conversation with Mr. BMW about why. The why is because they were running out of real estate for solid state electronics with all of the eas esc blah blah blah.

    I have anew 2013 now....and I have sure flashed hi-beam and honked my horn a lot at people in front of me at intersections!
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  20. Steveman

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    +1 It's a typical BMW thing which makes aboslutely no sense. Using the turn signals on the old system requires more attention than necessary and this is always a bad thing when riding a bike.

    BMW knows this since ages but Bavarians are willful. You may say ass like. Which means you keep on doing stupid things although you know it better. Like the ugly trun klid of the older BMW 7 series limousine. It was pig ugly and many thousand orders have been cancelled (in our company the whole BMW fleet contract was cancelled) but BMW stuck with it and presented a design superstar (C.Bangle) who obviously had the worst hangover when designing that most hated BMW car ever.

    It is normal that fans of the brand have no problem with pecularities, they call it character and all other people who think its just shit are fuzzy idiots.
    But I am not a BMW fan (although I own a F8) so I can say its just bullshit to have three switches for the blinkers :D And BMW guys arrogant as they are say loud and clear that their shitty turn signal system is just the best and the only reason why they changed to the "jap" system is due to the lack of space for other switches.

    Go ahead flame me to death :evil:1drink
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