BMW zumo now has XM

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  1. dbrown

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    I updated the software of my BMW zumo GPS to version 2.50 and XM has now been enabled for subscription, like the standard Garmin zumo 550 GPS.
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  2. M1Tanker

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    At this point, with all the updates, what exactly are the differences (other than the auto mount and possible price) between the Zumo 550 and the BMW Zumo?
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  3. jstcrashnthru

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    This was posted over on the Zumo forum as well. Has anyone actually heard XM play through the BMW Zumo? Or is this just a case of the button is there, but it still doesn't do anything?
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  4. ECM

    ECM Been here awhile

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    And that is the exact question I posted on the zumoforums as well :evil
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  5. dbrown

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    I have no XM antenna to to test it with but the "Changes from version 2.40 to version 2.50:" listed on Garmin WebUpdater included "Enabled XM satellite radio support. Requires GXM-30 accessory."

    I suspect the capability was always there, just disabled due to contracts that BMW had with Sirrus, which apparently have expired, no longer apply due to the current XM/Sirrus purchase/merger, or have been renegotiated.
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  6. Harrington

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    I'm waiting to see how BMW mounts the XM puck.:wink:
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  7. dbrown

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    From what I have gathered after months of checking forums, blogs, manufacturer websites and online/printed magazines, aside from the features listed below the software in the BMW zumo 550 and the Garmin zumo 550 is the same. The software version numbers on the Garmin unit are higher because it had more frequent updates, which is understandable since the designers/engineers probably just walked down the hall or to an adjacent building to get approval on software changes. The BMW team had both geographic and language barriers to overcome.



    Below are the features I have found the BMW zumo to include that the Garmin zumo does not:

    Black casing

    BMW custom caps

    Factory-styled mounting and wiring
    BMW power cable and Garmin cradle included, additional bike-specific mounting hardware, to attach cradle to bike, must be purchased separately from BMW dealer.​

    Dead-reckoning feature enabled by use of CAN-bus connection through BMW power cable.
    When the BMW zumo looses satellite reception, in tunnels, canyons, streets flanked by tall buildings, and such, it takes speed data gathered through its CAN-bus connection and heading data from its internal compass to produce continued position tracking on its display. (According to my dealer, this feature does not work on all BMW motorcycles. I have seen reports that it works well on the R1200GS, but have not tested it. Also, I have read that using the BMW power cable on the Garmin zumo will not enable this feature.)

    Note: Since I originally posted this I have tested, tested and retested my BMW zumo/R1200GS for this feature. Although my results looked promising at first, I finally determined that the BMW power cable supplied with the unit has only two wires. A third wire was reportedly required to furnish speed data from the bike to the zumo. So either the feature was never available as reported, was discontinued and the power-cable changed to two-wire setup, or the speed data is somehow piggy-backed on the two-wire power connection--possible but unlikely. For more on my testing of this feature go here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=446391 and here: http://www.zumoforums.com/index.php?topic=8317.0

    Unit powers on when ignition key is switched to on and powers off a short time (about two minutes) after the ignition key is switched to off.

    GTM 12 traffic receiver included in box
    $150 if purchased separately.
    Includes 3-month subscription.
    $60 one-time fee for "lifetime" subscription. (See www.garmin.com for their "lifetime" details and a list of coverage areas.)​

    "BMW Motorrad" start-up screen

    Worldwide BMW motorcycle dealer POI database, complete with address and phone number, is preloaded in unit. Has phone icon/button displayed next to phone number in each dealer listing. Simply touch the phone icon/button and the dealer's number is dialed on your bluetooth-connected phone.

    3-year warranty (US)

    Also I have seen reports that the BMW zumo has tougher build specifications than Garmin unit, but have been unable to confirm this.

    And yes, the automobile mount must be purchased separately.
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  8. JR356

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    BMW dealer database as well as a newer more up to date privately maintained dealer database can be loaded onto regular Zumo and any other Garmin GPS.

    http://www8.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=010-00517-00

    http://www.zumoforums.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=28

    http://gmccurdy1.home.att.net/Dealers/Dealers.html

    Previous BMW Nav GPS's were ruggedized over the Garmin units they were based on.Since the Zumo was designed from the outset as a MC GPS don't know if this is still true.

    JR356
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  9. M1Tanker

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    dbrown and JR356, Thanks.

    At this point, since I'm in the market for a GPS and currently don't have one, I'm leaning toward the BMW Zumo. The price for me will be a wash. Having said that I'm still curious about the soon to be released Zumo 660.
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  10. Chacifer

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    I hope someone can hook their updated BMW zumo up to a GXM-30 antenna to try this out. :lurk This would be pretty spectacular if it works.
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  11. marco polo

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    I'm not sure why anyone would buy a "Zumo" from anyone but the company which makes it. I'd sooner deal with them directly and also deal with GPS retailers who know something about a GPS, unlike many BMW dealers. But that's just me.
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    some BMW dealers offer steep discounts on their zumo when you buy a bike. I'd say it's akin to buying your GPS from any other retailer. When it breaks or you have problems, you're still not calling the place where you bought it.
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  13. PhilSpace

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    If anyone has one in the DC area, we have GXM-30's for test.

    The other key difference will be if the new Zumo will pass the XM audio out via BT - the 550 won't. Also, will data work - AKA Traffic and WX.

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  14. jstcrashnthru

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    The 550 will not transmit XM over bluetooth. You'll still need a dongle to do that.

    The new 660 does not have XM capability.
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  15. dbrown

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    Actually warranty claims on the BMW zumo are handled directly through Garmin. I found this in the FAQ section of Garmin's website (US):

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  16. dbrown

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    Of the three Garmin dealers (all electronics or outdoor-equipment stores) in the area that I found to have a zumo 550 in stock, none could tell me anything about the contents of the zumo box or how the zumo worked, other than what was printed on the box. Usually they would read the box or say "It works kind of like the nuvi." Many times the response I got was "Check the Garmin website."

    Of the four BMW Motorrad dealers in the area (within 250 miles) two stocked the BMW zumo. One day I was at one of the dealers and started a conversation about the zumo with the sales manager. Within a couple of minutes he had one in his hand and was demonstrating how to connect my phone to it using Bluetooth--even to the point of having someone call my phone so I could see how the zumo would display the caller info during an incoming call. A couple of weeks before this I had downloaded the manual and read it (twice actually) so I was familiar with the operation of the unit. I told the dealer this, but added "It would be nice to actually see it work." The dealer was more accommodating than I ever expected, especially since I had told him beforehand that I was not ready to buy. Four months later (last week) I went back and bought one. By the way, BMW is the only motorcycle line this dealer carries.

    Also, usually I give my business to the local guys. This helps the local economy, which in turn benefits me, indirectly as it may be. I buy online when no one local can or is willing to help.
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  17. PhilSpace

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    Read the thread and my post. It has been claimed that A, a firmware upgrade for the 660 does allow support for XM and B, the reason for my post was to find out if it is supported, and if so, if it works over BT unlike the two 550's that I already own. :baldy
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  18. Chacifer

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    Actually, it was claimed that the BMW Zumo 550s have a firmware upgrade allowing for XM support; that's what the thread was about.
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  19. PhilSpace

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    Sorry, stand corrected. Garmin version is up to version 4.60, when I saw 2.4 I was assuming the new beast.
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  20. M1Tanker

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    Has anyone actually received XM on the BMW Zumo?
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