Bonny SE-R will be called "Street Tracker"

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by No False Enthusiasm, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. Rich B

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    Huh, must not be the only one who has thought 2 cylinders from an 800 Tiger would be sweet.......

    IMO, a 650 parallel twin at or under 400 #'s is still the perfect motorcycle
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  2. No False Enthusiasm

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  3. Bongolia

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  4. pm9654

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    Wouldn't mind a 1000 Bonnie. IF they kept the look that the present bike has. Just upgrade the suspension, (keeping the same look) and maybe add a 6th. That would get my money.
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  5. No False Enthusiasm

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    My only point in showing the Norton Commando 961SS is that others have considered the idea of a large parallel twin.

    Too bad that effort was underfunded...

    Triumph could come close to that concept without much effort....

    Seems like more folks would be interested in this machine than some of the cruisers Triumph sells...

    NFE
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  6. kraven

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    For sure. Triumph has a lot of showroom potatoes.

    The sporting look applied to their sedate and reliable Bonneville platform is probably a good way to go, even if they aren't AMA compliant and street competitive. People buy these retro bikes for the "hey, lookie here at what I have!" angle of ownership. If they wanted flat out performance, they be buying a CBR or a STriple or something.
    These are cool leather jackets and goggles bikes. Why not just make them more cool with the street tracker look and the T-bird sport attitude?
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  7. NJ-Brett

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    If you want a liquid cooled sport bike, there are lots of bikes to choose from.
    There is no shortage of liquid cooled 2 cylinder bikes on the market, of all types, and just add 20 or 30 pounds for the liquid cooling.

    Why would anyone start with a Bonny if they wanted a liquid cooled sporty bike?
    If you want vintage, you could always put spoke wheels on a ninja or something...

    The Bonneville was supposed to be a light, fast air cooled nimble bike.
    It was when it came out, it was up to the 80's, its not anymore, its an overweight, under powered, poorly suspended retro copy of the old bikes which keeps getting bigger.

    If you want a liquid cooled large engine sporty twin, maybe they should call it something else.






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  8. DAKEZ

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    You haven't ridden one that has been opened up and re-mapped have you.

    :1drink
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  9. DAKEZ

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    The 3 cylinders is two steps sweeter. :nod
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  10. NJ-Brett

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    I had a 2005 with the dynojet kit and TOR exhaust, and while it had enough power to do anything, it was surprisingly under powered feeling for the motor size, and had a hard time going up some hills in PA.
    I have had a number of 1979 Bonnevilles, T140d and e models, and they felt faster, were a lot lighter, a lot more comfortable, handled better, and stopped just as well.

    And I doubt getting more power out of one would make it more fun, or more comfortable, or more nimble.
    To make it interesting for me, it would need a LOT more power, and that is not what I want or need.
    I would much rather have a 350 pound 500cc version like the old Daytona's were.




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  11. Tripl Nikl

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    From: http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-talk/225506-new-bonneville-in-the-works-6.html

    I'm as stoked about this as I am about the Honda CB1100. I hope there's a fight in the market between UJMs and UEMs. Take the best of "retro" and use it. If I wanted balls-to-the-wall performance, I'd look elsewhere. For all around use? These two bikes really interest me. Things are getting exciting. :D

    If it ends up looking something like this...

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    "Yes, please."
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  12. No False Enthusiasm

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    Thanks for posting these two pics...

    The top one is the one I first saw which prompted this thread. The second is new to me and is a looker.

    NFE
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  13. Tripl Nikl

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    You bet, NFE. These are good times.

    I personally prefer the downward swept cafe tail over the upward swept tracker tail, so I know which way I'm voting there. As for the tank, again, I prefer the larger cafe tank over the smaller tracker tank. So... I guess I'm hoping this turns out to be a Super Thruxton. The Thrux was always a little too close to a standard Bonnie anyway--though it was a lot better looking, IMHO.

    Another example of what I'd like, a Triumph version of this:



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    Not a carbon copy, but a Triumph version. Especially one meant for daily riding without requiring a AmEx Black to fund.
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  14. mwoods

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    I'll second that.
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  15. No False Enthusiasm

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    I'll be 60 next time around.... need a little more leg room and higher bars than Thruxton offers... :gerg

    I'd like at least 4 gallons, if not a bit more...

    With regard to the tail, I'd like a place to load soft bags for weekending.

    Is Triumph seeing any of this?

    Dakez, can you send this up the chain of command?

    NFE
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  16. DAKEZ

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    Fair enough. The reason I asked is that I had some saddle time on a 2012 that Mike Stegmann had re-mapped the f/I and opened up a little to allow more air to pass through... After the first ride I remember thinking "That's a nice engine!"
    I no way did it feel heavy to me.

    I like the way you think with the "350 pound 500cc" but I am a large person and 500cc's just doesn't do it for me.




    I forwarded your wishes on to Greg Heichelbech.

    If they don't build it before you're ready let me know, I will have Latus Motors set one up to fit you. :D
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  17. CajunRider

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    I was really hoping for something more like this:

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    Yeah, I know it's a photo-chop... but I REALLY like the triple engine!
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  18. No False Enthusiasm

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    Thanks Dakez... nice to have friends with connections....

    I'm planning a bank robbery in the near future and will use the proceeds to fund a special order Bonny SE-R based on the Norton Commando 961 SS.

    NFE
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  19. Bongolia

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    The Bonnie motor weighs in at nearly 200 lbs alone.

    i think there is a market for a 500 cc twin, fuel efficient, watercooled as the air cooled motors struggle to meet emission controls, long stroke for torque and economy, light, lean, as an introduction to the range. Maybe pass that on too, Dakez.

    Honda know the way it is heading..
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  20. Tripl Nikl

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    A Bonnie with a ST motor? Yeah, I'm okay with that. I don't think they're going that way though.

    As for the seats, pegs, etc., I'm sure--scratch that, I *hope*--that Triumph keeps the frame architecture the same so that aftermarket seats, etc., can be swapped over. Sort of like making the "Street Tracker" a Bonnie ridden through the farkle catalog but stock and without the double expense of scrapping new bits for aftermarket ones.
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