Boot Scootin' Boogie!

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by ROAD DAMAGE, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. ROAD DAMAGE

    ROAD DAMAGE Long timer

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    Wanted to know if any of you inmates have ever done something like "THIS"?

    Last Sunday I was riding home from the 2013 Dino Ride out near the UT/CO border. It was a cool, quiet morning with no traffic so I was having a fun, spirited ride. I'd already "drug pegs" and "scooted boots" 15 or 20 times that morning. As I laid into a right hander at about 65 mph the outside of my boot contacted the pavement .............. and it STUCK! :huh

    It was quick, violent and a little painful. Frankly, it scared the snot out of me! It happened way too quick for me to ever react. As I "rode past" my foot, it was kicked outward, backward and slammed into the pillion foot rest of my 07' GSA. OUCH! I had on my Aerostich Combat Touring boots. Glad I did. :D I had a spontaneous feeling of nausea and forehead perspiration. Probably some shock I assumed. I slowed down, gathered myself and evaluated the situation. I thought that I might have done some damage because of the feeling of the spontaneous shock. I eventually moved my toes, foot, ankle, knee, etc. and then put some weight on my foot by lifting my butt off the saddle. After this didn't prove too painful I decided to stand up on the pegs. Everything felt fine other than some general tightness and footache. COOL!

    Of course it swelled and turned black and blue and generally looked much worse than it felt. After a few days I mowed the lawn, shuffled around some vehicle tires and wheels, did some chores, moved some equipment in and out of storage, carried on with all but my most physical tasks, etc. etc. Sore, but not REAL painful. I've had sprained ankles over the years, and this felt a little different. After a few days the pain went from general to focused above my ankle. It improved for a few days .......... and then it quit improving. I decided to go to the local clinic today (6 days later) and get it checked out. The PA twisted and manipulated my foot and it never really was too horribly tender. He said "no x-ray necessary". When the Dr. came in he thought it probably was just sprained but was concerned with the level of swelling. At my urging they took some x-rays, and the pictures showed that I had broken the distal end of my right fibula. Gonna go see an ortho early this next week and see what he says. Hope I can avoid any surgery! :eek1 :lol3

    SOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo, any of you guys and gals ever do this? I'm really no "Ricky Road Racer", but I ride 25K a year and I'm not afraid to lean into a turn. I really don't think I was being lazy with my feet. I wear a size 13.5 boot and they are about as wide as my pegs. Hard to avoid boot/asphalt contact if you're having fun in the twisties. I'm tall and I'd like to have lowered pegs, but then they'd be that much easier to drag ...... so I've never done that. I've done this (boot scootin') for years and I've never had any problems ................. but I sure as hell don't want to do this again. Would different pegs have helped? Would different boot or soles have helped? Alright you road racers and track day guys, what say ye? What do you folks that drag the sides of their boots when you are cornering a little aggressively do to avoid this? Inquiring minds want to know! :deal :lol3

    Thanks all!

    Rob (aka Road Damage) (I'm feeling like I'm sorta "earning" my Road Damage" handle recently)
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  2. Badjuju

    Badjuju Biker Billy

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    I've had my boot toe touch down and grind itself on the pavement many times and never had it "stick", as you called it. You obviously hit a pavement crack, joint or seam with the toe of your boot.

    That being said, you wrote that you had enjoyed the heck out of dragging pegs and boots for some period of time prior to the accident and you should take some time to analyze what happened, what you were doing, attention level, etc. Sounds to me as if it was prolly a one-time event where several unforeseeable events/conditions came to pass at the same place/time ... It also sounds likely that maybe you were being a bit too lazy or blase' about your foot position on the pegs, which was a contributing factor to your injury. Keep them big 13.5 size feet tucked in from now on!!! :wink:
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  3. Guano11

    Guano11 Behind Bars....

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    I'm not a medical expert, but I don't think "shock" sets that quickly -- it's something that develops after the adrenaline sorta wears off.
    I think your "spontaneous feeling of sweat and nausea" was that -- a shot of adrenaline -- and a feeling of dread!

    Good luck with your healing!
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  4. shaddix

    shaddix Banned

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    Yeah I was warned about this issue by mr captain crash so I quit allowing my boots to scrape. Lean into the turn more with your body so nothing touches the ground!
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  5. advNZer?

    advNZer? Long timer

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    i move my feet back on the pegs so that i am the balls of my feet,and i keep my feet in.If nothing else its a waste of boot soles
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  6. sphyrnidus

    sphyrnidus born to ride

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    Well my feet aren't as big as yours, site 12. But I try never to scrape my feet on the pavement. You wear your boots down and it is as you found out dangerous at times. So like the guy said pull your feet back a bit.
    I ride a GSA and corner it as flat as it will go and I almost never scrape my boot on the pavement.
    I see a lot of riders with there feet turned outwards. Just don't do that!
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  7. ROAD DAMAGE

    ROAD DAMAGE Long timer

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    Thanks amigos! I appreciate all the input.

    Looks like I should try to leave most of the "boot scootin" out on the dance floor. :D

    My fun morning has left me with 4-5 weeks of recovery time. I guess it was worth it! :lol3

    Not complaining ......... just explaining! :D

    Rob
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  8. BuilderScott

    BuilderScott Been here awhile

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    Damn Rob, glad it wasn't worse. Heal fast! How many breakfast beers did you have that morning? :freaky
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  9. Graniteone

    Graniteone 3,2,1...Beer me!

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    Hey Rob,

    Sorry to hear about your "damage". I one time put my foot down at the wrong moment while sitting and negotiating some rocks in a turn and was going fast enough to have my foot get kicked back towards the back of the bike. Scared me straight. Leg was bruised but otherwise fine. Heal up and you'll be twisting the throttle again soon enough.
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  10. lineareagle

    lineareagle philomath

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    You REALLY want to keep your toes tight to the bike or you might end up with:

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    It is called a butterfly fracture. Very common in skiing and snowboarding as well.
    Foot rotates, ankle rotates but knee doesn't and two bones fracture with the Tibia in three pieces.
    BTW this break happened before the bike low sided, like you I felt it catch. But in my case I also felt and heard it break.

    So to answer your question, yes I have. I now try to avoid it at all cost.
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  11. ObiJohn

    ObiJohn Screaming Banshee

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    I've dragged a boot, once. I slowed down. I figure I was very lucky my boot didn't get sucked off of the peg and back somewhere I don't want to think about.
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  12. Wingfixer

    Wingfixer Watch this...

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    These are the boots I ride in. The part in the circle are called toe sliders, I have worn out a few sets of these. There is nothing wrong with dragging a toe (the side of your foot) as long as you put the peg under the balls of your feet, tuck your feet into the bike, toes pointed slightly inward, and wear the proper foot wear. Ride On!!!!

    On the other hand, I have hit a few cat eyes with a foot down, that hurts like a mother!!
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  13. bumbeen

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    Am I incorrect in this? I thought your feet were supposed to be half off the pegs and your heels dug into the rearsets?
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  14. lineareagle

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    WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. See above. Fine to ride like that on the straight and narrow and little traffic, but as soon as you get to a corner it should be balls of feet on pegs and toes pointed in slightly.

    Personally I like getting in the habit of riding on the balls all the time. It puts the knees into the tank and you don't have to transition and lifting weight off the seat for the pothole and obstacle is easier as well. Much easier to shift and brake and your balance improves.

    http://husqvarnaoutlet.com/proper_foot_to_peg_positioning
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  15. bumbeen

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    Hum ok. I thought I remembered reading an article somehwere that said to leave the balls of your feet half off so your toes are actually pointed outwards a little bit
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  16. 4wheeldog

    4wheeldog Long timer

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    A gremlin reached up and grabbed your foot. It is more difficult to cause mechanical difficulties in non HD iron, so you need the bell to keep the little bastards from grabbing your tootsies.

    Hope you heal well. I broke my ankle once, at the start of a 9 day backpacking trip. Didn't get it diagnosed until 3 weeks after we got back........When I rebroke it. Good luck.
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  17. AirforceGSRider244

    AirforceGSRider244 Hardcore adventurer

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    Trust me when i say this. :thwak lets say you have your heels on the pegs instead of the balls of your feet. thinking your superman :pynd on turns and your riding and riding and riding and doing twisties. but all the sudden your foot gets sucked up and twisted under the peg and bike. because your toes drop below the level of the pegs. and oh shit. now your foot/leg is facing the opposite direction. and if that doesnt rip you off the bike, trying to regain control will. which causes further injury. your just asking for trouble when you do that. :amazon :d so please please please for your own good. its much better for you if your on the balls of your feet and not your heels. plus it helps your balance offroad. and on road when your riding in tight turns at a higher rate of speed.:freaky
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  18. mb90535im

    mb90535im '05 R1200 GS

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    I have big wide feet and a new pair of Alpinestar Scouts I'm trying my best to avoid dragging. Can't seem to find sliders for them.

    I'm trying real hard to practice balls on the pegs and toes slightly in and try to not drag my toe at all if I can help it.
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  19. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Ride with your balls of your feet on the pegs! I see so many people riding around with their huge clodhoppers hanging out to the sides of the pegs...very dangerous, as you found out the hard way! Sorry to hear of your injuries.
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  20. Huzband

    Huzband Team Dirt

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    Learn body position & foot placement. Track schools, like CSS would be a great help. No need to drag hard parts if you're doing it right.
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