Boots matter

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by Gregg Wannabe, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. Earth Rider

    Earth Rider Long timer

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    Boots don't need to be stiff and awful to walk in to provide a lot of protection, though. Everything dual-sport is a compromise.
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  2. tallnbig68

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    One of the primary reasons I have not returned to riding after serious illness was finding suitable footwear. Aside from finding suitable external riding wear, footwear is a more severed problem. My feet are enormous, my specialty shoe maker figures my foot to be roughly equivalent to a size in North American terms, to be a 18, 9E. Which is about the same size as a shortened pair of fins used for diving. Extremely wide, and a long size in length, with an extremely high arch. Beofre i stopped riding due to health reasons; wore a pair of custom industrial style lace boots. From replies on this forum, this
    would not be way to go if I could even find suitable footwear. And then there is the problem with continuing leg wounds that are reluctant to heal, moreso for those with diabetes which I don't have, thankfully.
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  3. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue

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    I wear Sidi Crossfires. I don't remember if I bought men's or women's. They fit fine, been wearing them for about a year and a half.

    There is a huge lack of women's protective gear that is on the same level as what is available for men.
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  4. Dorito

    Dorito Dreamer and Doer

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    Same thing happened as skiing boots got stiffer in the 60s. However, I believe that a knee that only moves in one axis from (0-110 degrees) is much easier to repair than an ankle that is suppose to have 2-axis of freedom and 360 degrees!
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  5. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue

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    Probably not what you want to hear, but throw a pair of low ankle hiking shoes or tennies in your bag (or, if there isn't much sand, a pair of Tevas)
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  6. TN3Sport

    TN3Sport East TN DS Rider

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    When I first read this, I began questioning my Thor 50/50 boots. They are hard core boots but only half height stopping at the lower shin.
    But, now that I look at the photo of the accident, i think the focus needs to be on riding within personal abilities versus gear selections. This guy is significantly over the yellows and paid a dear price for it. I might need to upgrade me boots, but my immediate focus will continue to be on my abilities to stay in my lane...

    I hope that wasn't too harsh, but crossing the mustard should be treated as a cardinal sin for riders.
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  7. NYTrainer

    NYTrainer Been here awhile

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    I have recently been wearing my MX boots, even when riding the street bikes in hot weather. Cheap insurance. if I am going to stop for awhile, I take some sneakers in the tank bag. (Even though they look odd with armored riding pants.)

    I cannot believe that anyone would buy the expensive "shorty" riding boots!
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  8. Gregg Wannabe

    Gregg Wannabe Just killing time

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    To me it's not an either/or. It's both.

    I am upping my gear and keeping it between the lines.

    Thanks everyone for the spirited discussion.

    p.s. The downed rider is 62, has been riding since he was 18 and this was his first accident.
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  9. psmcd

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    Even the experienced are vulnerable to distraction. I have been thinking a lot lately of the erosion of focus. The nature of our culture can cause us to become accustomed to continually shifting our attention to unnecessary distractions. Worse is to linger on a distraction and delay return to the task at hand.

    We can't say, and even this rider may not know what happened. I hope he makes the best recovery possible. Be safe out there.


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  10. vanisle-motogirl

    vanisle-motogirl Canuck

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    Ahh!! Thanks for the insight there!
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  11. Earth Rider

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    You can ride within your own personal abilities but you have no control over everyone else's driving.
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  12. psmcd

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    I've been in my new Crossfire TAs over 3 hours. Walking, crouching, sitting. They feel great. I can wear them all day, like comfortable, good fitting ski boots. They're not like slippers but the ankles flex good for shifting/braking (and walking). You can feel the protection but its not uncomfortable. I don't have a problem if they squeak a bit. They'll do for short hikes or walking in for a drink/sandwich. Heat is the only thing I'm unsure about but it'll be awhile before I can comment on that. They felt great pushing the snow blower. They feel great standing on the pegs dead engine in the garage.:ricky It's 20 degrees out there,:vardy what else can I do? I've been told I can't wear them to bed.:nono

    They are spendy - $400 but worth it. I have a couple good pair of leather motocross boots but think these will provide a little more protection. I don't expect them to do more than provide good support and protect from bumps and scrapes.

    I was also impressed with the Gaerne SG-12s. Maybe a bit stiffer around the toe box, a bit more padding around the ankle, and a bit more dough.
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  13. Gregg Wannabe

    Gregg Wannabe Just killing time

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    Glad you like the Crossfires. I have had mine for about 3-4 years and use them for desert dirt biking. I have never noticed them to be overly warm and it is always hot when I am riding.
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  14. OVerLoRDI

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    Yes they do. Boots have saved me at least twice. My poor boots are so beat up but they have more than paid for themselves.
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  15. Horizontal

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    First off, sorry to hear about any injury such as this, but I'm a firm believer in ATGATT — I'm too old to mess with broken bones.

    Foot-wise, let me pimp my boots that I absolutely love. They're sold as ATV boots, but are basically motocross boots. Right now, I'm mostly riding around town but wear them nonetheless to avoid situations like the one this post is about.

    Yes, they are a bit stiff in the ankles and shifting took a bit getting used to, but I'm amazed how comfortable they are overall and how quickly they broke in. And because they have a boot-like sole instead of a smooth motocross sole, you can walk around in them easily once off the bike. I just like the way they feel on my feet.

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    If I'm ever in the position of sliding down the pavement or running into something, I at least want to have boots like these protecting my feet and ankles. Total cost just over $100. Amazing. YMMV.
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  16. G.Smiley

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    I just stumbled upon this thread and had an "I've been there" moment.

    I982, riding my Norton with another rider at night, dark, no moon. He had been riding behind me but passed and pulled ahead. I didn't know that his brake light was not operating and he had no signals on his old Triumph.

    I caught him, didn't realize he was braking and was passing him when he turned directly into my path, turning left. I was doing about 125 kph. Broken ribs and punctured lung, but the worst of my injuries was to my foot. He had no rubber on the passenger footpeg and as I ripped passed him the steel footpeg went through the top of my boot, through my foot and right through the sole of my boot. I still limp to this day and have had three operations but can still walk. I am lucky to have a foot.

    I was wearing a very light weight half boot of thin leather and sole, more stylish than for the ride. Full face helmet took a beating as did my good leather jacket but they did their duty.

    I now wear custom made boots by Dayton, due to the fact that my right foot is now shortened by a full size. They are made of extremely tough leather with a very robust sole, but I still wonder how much better these boots would hold up in the same situation.

    Anybody out there with a size 13 right foot and a size 12 right? We can buy boots together and end up with perfect sizing by getting a pair of each size and swapping one of each! :D
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  17. Littlepeter

    Littlepeter Been here awhile

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    Here you go.
    http://www.oddshoefinder.com/

    I am still waiting for my foot to heal. I can see that one of my toes is shorter than it used to be,but am hoping I'll be able to wear matched footwear!

    Peter
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  18. slicktop

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    well, I'm going recount a more recent event as in 09nov13 on a 167wr husky. Its a very tall bike and I ride rocky hills. Garne 10s.
    Going up a steep rocky rt hand turn, back tire skips a football sized rock out and I could not reach the ground on downhill side to stop from going over. Pinned my leg between engine case and a pointed buried rock and chipped my tibia. I hope to come out of air cast next week.
    That was to be the last time I would ride the bike before selling for a trials. My wife bought a set of garne 12s for Christmas to help(bless her soul) but I haven't been in them yet to see how they feel. I will probably need trials boot now anyway.
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  19. RBMoto

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    Thanks for this thought-provoking thread. :clap After looking at this thread for a while, I ordered the Gaerne SG12 boots.:huh The Gaerne boots replace my 1979 metal-plate Alpinstars!

    Thanks to God I have not damaged my body significantly from a moto crash since 1976. But in my field, the medical field, I have seen most examples of what happens with moto crashes, and MVCs or other trauma as well. So, I continue to ride, continue to think of and realize the very serious consequences, and then spend more $$ on the latest greatest protective gear- I have the fairly complete kit now! More imortantly, I continue to think in depth about how to avoid a motorcycle crash!!! :deal
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  20. G.Smiley

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    I hope that the healing goes quickly for you.

    Thanks, but no joy on that link. I don't fancy riding with New Balance shoes, the only option available. I'll just keep buying to fit the left foot and stuff a sock in the right boot.

    I do like my Dayton boots, handmade in Vancouver, and at least 150 thousand km on them, since I bought them in 1995 (or there about). Fit like an old glove, minus the holes. Not long after I got them my new dog decided that the fine leather would make for a nice chew, just to strengthen his jaw you understand, not like he'd eat it. As if he could swallow it anyhow.

    I sent the savaged boot back to Dayton and it came back to me like new, in very good time. I've worn them since and still remember my long gone dog with fondness despite, or maybe due to the damage that he caused.

    I always look at boots on the rare occasion that I go to mc shows or dealerships, but haven't found the perfect replacement boot yet.
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