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Discussion in 'Sports' started by spanky, Sep 18, 2009.

  1. docwells7

    docwells7 Long timer

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    1. Within 24 hours of Tebow and the Broncos beating the Steelers and their #1 defense, you assert that he won't be an NFL quarterback for long. Not only criticism, but baseless criticism. I'll call that last paragraph a complisult.

    You said that Demarius Thomas deserved credit and if you cared to google or look into the post game comments, you might have found this gem.

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    Thomas got plenty of ink for his part in the win. But, in reality, how much pressure was DT under in that game? Now consider the pressure on Tebow. Color me impressed.
  2. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    :baby Yeah, no else has injuries to key players at this time of year. The Broncos didn't lose a starting O lineman last week and have a hampered potential Defensive Rookie of the year. Just to name two.

    1. Take a look at Rodgers, Brees, or Brady... how many of their passes are to receivers that aren't "open"-- quite a few. They can thread needles and can hit really really really short openings. Tim needs a more open receiver, he hit a few barely open guys yesterday- but that hasn't been his MO this year. I welcome commentary from the Florida guys here, but what I remember of Tebow in college is a bunch of really short option passes.---> Tebow runs towards the line, linebacker goes to stop him opening up a receiver 6 yards down field, Tebow shotputs a pass to the now open receiver. Not spectacular passes, but sure worked against College D's.

    2. Yes sir, Tebow has done some good things, but the defense and they other players haven't been getting their due. What I think Tebow has done is made the rest of the team believe--- thus upping their game.

    3. :nono I think the Pats will win, but it will be much closer. 28-17
  3. Dranrab Luap

    Dranrab Luap E-Tarded Super Moderator

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    I wan't criticizing Tebow. I speculated that he wouldn't be in the league long. What's the average lifespan of QB that connects on less than 50% of his passes? If I said Blaine Gabbert wouldn't be around long, that wouldn't be a criticism it would be an opinion based on historical observation. I like the way you said Tebow and the Broncos. The little bit of media coverage I saw said Tebow beat the Steelers. I acknowledged Tebow for his part in the touchdown. Oddly he hit the reciever right in his hands. It was a great pass. Tebow is a fine young man. I would expect him to share the glory with his teammates. That's but one of the reasons i like him. Pay attention to what I type, not what you think I typed. Are Tebows balls blocking your sight of my post?
  4. spanky

    spanky Well, maybe...

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    I think he's still adjusting to the speed of the pro game and there is no doubt that these players develop at a different pace. Heck, you need only look at Mark Sanchez to see that. There was a time when Chuck Noll thought about benching Terry Bradshaw and didn't Brett Favre get traded from the Falcons to GB because they'd lost faith in him? I distinctly recall Elway running for his life most of the '83 season. There's a long list QB's who had a rough start only to blossom later on and then there are others who get to ride the bench for a while and not suffer the growing pains of a rokie like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.


    Don't blame TT for what the press prints. There is no doubt that he initially got more praise than he should have but he's more than acknowledged his poor play and heaped accolades on his teammates proclaiming they make him better then he actually is.


    I remember that play, it was right after he'd gotten smacked in the facemask. Who knows, maybe you'd do the same thing if you had Steeler hit man James Harrison gunning for your nearest breakable appendage.

    I consider this to be his true rookie year and Sunday Cam Newton, Mark Sanchez, Jake Locker, and a host of other noob QB's were watching the playoff games and TT in particular. Let's wait a few years and see how things shake out before lodging so much criticism.

    Oh, and BTW, "complisult" fits the paragraph above quite well.

    Well, I hope not but just as yesterday's game was all on the Steelers to deliver so will this week's game against the Pats.:wink:
  5. docwells7

    docwells7 Long timer

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    On a side note. WTF is up with that forward backward pass rule? If I understand it right, if that had been a lateral, it would have been Denver ball, but since he threw it backward as a traditional throw and it was blown dead, the recovery doesn't count? That is totally discombobulated. That needs to be changed before next season. Am I understanding the interpretation of the rule correctly?:ear
  6. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    :nod--- Rule should be simple, if it goes forward is a "pass" regardless of arm motion. (Shuttle pass anyone?) If it goes equal or behind is a "lateral" regardless of arm motion. Period.
  7. D-Train

    D-Train Ridin' Dirty

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    Good conversation here...I have been a Bronco fan all my life and it's great to get excited again:freaky I could go all day with this stuff but I agree with a few of you that are speaking up (docwells and of course TheDude) so I'll let you two hammer it out with the rest:lol3

    To address your question above it was a backward pass that was dropped and should have been a live ball. The referee blew the whistle thinking it was a forward pass which ended the play. Since the play was blown dead there was really no sense in challenging the ruling on the field. Bottom line the ref blew it but in his defense it was hard for him to tell.

    Great game...the Broncos kicked the shit out of the Steelers at that's all there is to it. Both teams had notable injuries and lets not forget the Steelers were much more experienced than the Broncos:clap If the Steelers would have won I would have cheered them the rest of the way...ABSOLUTELY LOVE Mike Tomlin...all class:clap
  8. mike54

    mike54 You don't get me

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    Settle down. The Broncos squeeked out a win in overtime. It's still a win though.

    To see shit kicking watch Saints vs. Lions or Giants vs Falcons.
  9. D-Train

    D-Train Ridin' Dirty

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    Really? What game were you watching? Twice in the 2nd quarter we were in the Red Zone which both could have been TD's...a fumble with around 4 minutes left and a dropped interception in the end zone by Champ...Steelers got their asses kicked no bones about it. The score does not need to be inflated to determine a good ol' as whoopin'!
  10. mike54

    mike54 You don't get me

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    The only point of the game is to score points. Would a could a should a doesn't mean anything.

    But you believe what you want. Tebow does. :D
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  12. docwells7

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    In all of this 'discussion' about Tebow, I must say that I was impressed, yet again, with how gritty and bad to the bone tough Big Ben is. Seriously, he was playing on one leg and nearly pulled it off. Personally, I don't like the guy, but damn he is one tough hombre. He needs to get a gay personal assistant to help him out with his wardrobe...He looked like he misunderstood what gangsta' means and went with a more traditional Bugsy Malone look...:eek1

    As for the backward pass. I don't understand why it can't be challenged just like a fumble or lateral that is mistakenly whistled dead. It was a meathead whistle by the ref as they're supposed to let close plays like that play out and work it out in review. I was listening to Bill Simmons's podcast and he and Lombardi didn't understand the rule either. As Jurgen said...if the ball is considered live, it should be reviewable whistle or not. That call was a 10 point swing minimum...

    I also didn't understand the no call on the Tebow facemask. It wasn't exactly subtle...
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    Reminds me off this scrapper from the old days.

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    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    I too like Tomlin, but a few thing soured me on the Steelers. They used to. E one of my "alternates." (new orleans and houston are now)

    1. Went to a Broncos/Steeler game. By far, by far, the the most asshaatted visiting fans I have encountered. And yes, I've been to quite a few Raiders games at Mile High.


    2. The rapist at worst/ thug style dater at best they have as QB. I used to like him. Not at all now.
  16. OConnor

    OConnor Bad juju

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    At least Raiders fans are "interesting". :lol3
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  18. OuttaMyWay

    OuttaMyWay I shook his hand!!!!1!!

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    Does the BCS give you a better idea what a gool ol' ass whoopin' looks like?
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    TheDudeAbides Sarcasm free11/11/10

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  20. spanky

    spanky Well, maybe...

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    Greenie was quoting some Elias Sports Bureau stats on Eli Manning for the 13th game in his young NFL career. I don't recall the specifics but I do recall that his stats were very bad. I guess the comparison was made against TT's last game and to illustrate just how badly a player can be perceived at one point in his career and yet not only recover but excel.

    The point of their story was that Eli sucked and he sucked for quite some time before he got better. Now he's telling people that he's an elite QB. Should he improve to a point where the Broncos become legitimate SB contenders can you ever see TT making a proclamation like that? No, didn't think so. It's not in his makeup. He just goes out and plays.

    Some here have been pretty harsh on TT and that's fine. Yes, he has his ups and downs and he has faults in his technique but let's wait a few years to see how it goes. Offering bleak predictions about his next game and/or only sets you up to look like an idiot (not that it bothers most of you) and pretty much shows your bias.

    Do I think they'll win this week? No, but I didn't think they'd win last week either. All I knew is that they'd gone from 4-12 to 8-8 and won their division as a result of having the best head-to-head record. Some say they backed in. Okay, so they did. But where was SD with His Majesty Phillip Rivers? You know, the team that starts slow then wins late to take it all (and then flops in the playoffs). Where were the high draft pick laden Raiders? I'll tell ya, too busy committing penalties and posing for the crowd. I won't bother with the Chiefs because, well, no one cares except of maybe Len Dawson.

    So there it is, haters, after this season's over the division title will be up for grabs.....come take it from the Broncos.