Brownsvillian Memorial Wisconsin Ice Riding Thread (WI)

Discussion in 'Central – From Da Nort Woods to the Plane States' started by scarysharkface, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. papalobster

    papalobster With Gusto!

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    Orrrrrr....bring your charger along?

    I had to move teh banana around a bit yesterday. It's so weird having a dedicated ice track plow truck that fires up and drives without a bunch of mucking around.

    The VW on the other hand:bluduh
  2. B-Rod

    B-Rod RubberNecker

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    Who built that tire? It doesn't look like a Fournier from what I can see. I have built a few tires with a single row of screws in the centre knobs, and they were cracking the blocks off (1 1/4" screws didn't help either). My last couple tires have five per centre block, 1 1/2" screws, two liners, and I shaved some height off the knobs (and sides to get the right profile). They have now been practised on and raced, and they look as good as new. I kind of enjoy building the tires, and I think I have learned much in the process. I think I have it now.

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    My Fournier MT44 has some issues, since I didn't have a guide and the chain impacted some of the side screws, and cracked open five knobs. The tire is still good to race (say the marshals) and there is no real threat of losing them. I built a chain guide and mounted a new chain (stress cracks may occur from the scratches in the side links). I built a new tire anyhow, as I actually wanted to start the race, it being my first. The MF1 screws in the tire he built differ from the screws he sold me. They are a little smaller than the MF1s I bought, and a little bigger than the front screws.

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    Weeee hoooo!

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  3. Ratski

    Ratski Been here awhile

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    I'll be out on Sunday again this weekend.
  4. vwboomer

    vwboomer Buffoon

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    It is right from Fournier. Of the few people I have talked to, none has seen a Geomax used :dunno

    I will use the screws and liners and build a new one, likely adding a third screw to each center knob. Might be too much stress using just 2? I dont like to lose a weekend or two on the ice while I do it, but with some of the screws turning themselves the wrong way I dont want to worry about it out there either.
  5. B-Rod

    B-Rod RubberNecker

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    This is the 18" rear a friend bought off him this year, and from what I could tell just by looking around at the race on the weekend, all of the 18" rears were also the Bridgestone M102. All 19" rears were Pirelli MT44 (unobtainium for me. I think he gets all of them. The only catalogue that even lists them says 'MT44 Ice racing tire'. For dirt it has bee superseded by an MXS or something like that). This is a MF built tire. In the centre there are 5-5-4-4-5-5- etc. I built mine all 5's since there was more than enough room. Since I have been goofing around and learning from my mistakes, there is a balance between not enough and too many. Not enough allows the knobs to move around, and I have had issues with the knobs cracking at the base. It just puts too much stress on each screw. I didn't want to chance it, and it was only about 10 extra screws.

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    Mine. . . .again, but for comparison. Also M102

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    The M102 is a nice tire since the spacing and shape of the blocks allow for a good pattern. I have built both an 18"for a friend and a 19" for myself. The 19 is very lo profile, and makes it a rear bugger to install once you have two liners inside the now veeeeery small cavity. The one thing you may need to consider when planning on rebuilding the tire, an un-profiled knobbie has a rather flat profile. I take more rubber off the sides than the middle to get a nice rounded shape that provides excellent traction when banked over hard. I would really push to get something worked out with MF. I doubt there is anything you could have done to that tire to break every knob in the same fashion. Good luck.
  6. papalobster

    papalobster With Gusto!

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    Hi B-rod:wave Thanks for the input.

    I'm gonna run out to the lake this eve and see what happened to the ice. My concern is having the snow freeze into the puddles. There was a lot of water on top just before the snow hit.

    Hope to be out both days.

    Boomer the DRZ will be available all day Saturday. Yeah, it only has AMA screws so you'll have to slum it.
  7. Rev 496

    Rev 496 n00b

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    . I have a pair of MF44's for sale if you want to upgrade:wink:
  8. papalobster

    papalobster With Gusto!

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    It may be a bit loose on the back rim:deal:lol3
  9. vwboomer

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    I will be out with the 300 tomorrow. Screw it. winter is short :deal

    New knobbies arrive next week.
  10. C Squared

    C Squared Now with TURBO!

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    New tire from MF or ????
  11. kckeeny

    kckeeny Poor Bastard

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    Not me. Fork tubes & seals are shot. Those itty bitty cold cutters must flex under the power of the DT400 and have wrecked a set of vintage forks. What I need is a modern (2001) KTM400.
  12. papalobster

    papalobster With Gusto!

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    Bring a little extra wood. I'll bring the pit.

    Kyle, same offer. DRZ is available.
  13. vwboomer

    vwboomer Buffoon

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    gonna home build another one.
    Haven't heard back from MF since he asked what pressure I was running. There's $400 down the crapper! But screws and liners will probably outlive multiple tires.

    I assume that's the case :nod

    I know what the fork tube game is like :2cry
    cept mine weren't 'vintage' of course. Good thing you have more.
  14. Wifarmer

    Wifarmer Adventurer

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    Has anyone been out to check the lake surface yet? Is stopped by a local pond last night and it was 1/4" of yellow ice on top of 3" of yellow water on top of the ice. Not sure if even this cold weather can fixt that!

    Also, have you guys been driving on by Pete's or by the gas station?
  15. papalobster

    papalobster With Gusto!

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    I'm going to stop out this afternoon and check. Been getting on right by Pete's. Most have been pretty good with quiet (ish) bikes and only one land owner complaint so they haven't shut the landing down. Ice was good enough for us to be out a ways. I'm going to try to get the track out a bit further yet as ice conditions warrant.

    I'll post my findings here and the facebook page.
  16. C Squared

    C Squared Now with TURBO!

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    Driving on by Pete's. One of my students says the ice out by our track (new track will be made) is good ice.
    Says maybe a little bumpy, but good ice. I guess we shall see.
  17. BENRON

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    :nod Tax return money? Make those lazy no good tax deductions work for you for a change.

    Took the shoddy home made lowering link off the RXV last night and started putting in the new air filter/ prefilter set up.

    Found an entire old dried up tree leaf on the wrong side of the filter :bluduh

    I need to get those pretty turn signals off before they get ripped off.
  18. vwboomer

    vwboomer Buffoon

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    If he uses his tax return money on your bike, I want a fucking ride cuz I helped pay for it.


    Someone bring a fire pit tomorrow.
  19. kckeeny

    kckeeny Poor Bastard

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    One of the (many) benefits of being married to an accountant is that she decides where the tax refund funds go. Just today I was explaining to her how I need your bike. She mumbled some such about needs vs wants and how I should pay off two other bikes in the garage before buying a new(er) one. All of the common sense shit goes right over my head of course. Me, being the smart ass that I am, suggested paying off the bike loan with the tax refundage and theretofore meeting her criteria. :D
  20. Wifarmer

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    Most years a chunk of my return gets my wife and I to Vegas for the final Supercross race of the year. mmmmmmmmmmmmm, Monster Girls............:D:D:D:D