Buell Ulysses XB12X Frame Damage

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by thesurvivalist, Jan 6, 2013.

  1. thesurvivalist

    thesurvivalist Backcountry Rider

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Oddometer:
    580
    Location:
    Colorado Springs
    I've been looking an an xb12x for sale, the bike was dropped stationary and slid down a hill. The puck took most of the damage and cracked the powercoating. I believe the frame could be dented under the puck. The bike rides ok.

    Would you walk away? Just want more opinions.


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    #1
  2. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass The AntiHarley

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2009
    Oddometer:
    3,644
    Location:
    The Lost Coast of California
    Depends on everything else especially the price.
    #2
  3. cb4017

    cb4017 Adventurer

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2007
    Oddometer:
    95
    Location:
    Northern Nevada
    If the powder coat is cracked then there's a good chance the frame is dented. The puck can be replaced. They just stick on with an adhesive. If the bike is in otherwise good shape and priced right it would be a contender. If the dented frame is going to bug ya then pass.
    #3
  4. TeepS

    TeepS Full Circle Rider

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2006
    Oddometer:
    377
    Location:
    Torrance, CA
    #4
  5. thesurvivalist

    thesurvivalist Backcountry Rider

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Oddometer:
    580
    Location:
    Colorado Springs
    If the frame is dented under the puck and there are no penetrating cracks would the bike still handle the same?
    #5
  6. stoney4vida

    stoney4vida Semper Fidelis

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2005
    Oddometer:
    2,172
    Location:
    Kentuckee
    I believe if frame was cracked, it would be leaking gas wouldn't it ? Frame is gas tank.
    #6
  7. cb4017

    cb4017 Adventurer

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2007
    Oddometer:
    95
    Location:
    Northern Nevada
    If it's not leaking fuel you would probably never know the difference. If I was looking at this bike I would probably replace the puck, touch-up the powder coat and call it good.
    #7
  8. panhead_dan

    panhead_dan motorcycle addict

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,027
    Location:
    Hermiston, Oregon
    I wouldn't be afraid of that dent if it doesn't leak. Look the bike over closely for other damage like say, the swingarm for example. It took a pretty hard whack to make that dent. The dent should be great leverage to get the price down a bunch.

    To an insurance company, that dent would total the bike so check the title to see if it is "salvage". If so, financing it would be a problem but if financing is not an issue for you then a salvage title would serve to be further bargaining leverage.

    Good used frames can be had for a few hundred bucks and are not too hard to swap out but don't tell the seller that.
    #8
  9. Hughlysses

    Hughlysses Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,498
    Location:
    Summerville, SC
    When the XB's came out in 2003, there were no "pucks". A lot of frames on these bikes got dented in minor tip-overs or low sides. I never heard of this being a problem apart from cosmetics, although insurance companies would sometimes total these bikes as the only way to fix them was to replace the frame. Some people cosmetically repaired the dents by sanding, filling with Bondo or similar, and repainting.

    The replaceable pucks were a big improvement when they came out in 2004.
    #9
  10. thesurvivalist

    thesurvivalist Backcountry Rider

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Oddometer:
    580
    Location:
    Colorado Springs
    Thanks for the info. I believe the frame is ok but I have another concern. Im aware that buels vibrate a lot. During idle the instrument cluster vibrates, when I revved it to 1700-2000rpm the cluster really shook. Today I had a look at a buell at a dealers and it shook significantly less.

    What do you think could be the problem?
    #10
  11. ongrade

    ongrade Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2012
    Oddometer:
    140
    Location:
    NorCal
    Mostly likely tuning, Harleys and Buells being air cooled are also very cold sensitive. I have a Harley that runs like crap when cold(especially when air temps are below 60 degrees) but smooths out nicely as soon as it warms up a bit. Takes anywhere from 5-15 minutes depending on air temps. If the bike has sat for awhile it could also be fuel related. One thing with Buell and Harley, the engines are caveman simple to work on.
    #11
  12. ERD

    ERD Custom Rider

    Joined:
    May 8, 2012
    Oddometer:
    385
    Location:
    Dallas, Texas, USA
    Probably the IAT sensor going out. If it is, it should run much smoother once it warms up.
    #12
  13. invisible monster

    invisible monster Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2007
    Oddometer:
    487
    Location:
    Perry County, OH
    There are plenty of unmolested Ulys for sale out there. A quick search on CycleTrader brings up 32 spread across the USA. I would pass on this one.
    #13
  14. panhead_dan

    panhead_dan motorcycle addict

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,027
    Location:
    Hermiston, Oregon
    I agree. If there are more issues than the one minor dent, pass on it. These bikes are easy to work on and stone simple but too many things do add up. Unless it's really, really inexpensive and you are mechanically inclined, keep looking for a better bike.
    #14
  15. invisible monster

    invisible monster Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2007
    Oddometer:
    487
    Location:
    Perry County, OH
    How many miles on the one with the scratched up puck? My Uly really smoothed out after it had some miles on it. The shake at idle when it was new was a bit extreme, not bad now at 27k miles. IAT sensor could be the culprit as stated in an earlier post, also could be a fouled or nearly fouled plug, which can be common for these bikes depending on how it is run.

    Also, what year is the one you are interested in buying? I would steer clear of any 2007 models as they seem to have had a bad run of crankshafts in those.

    Go on over to badweatherbikers.com for more Ulysses info than you could ever process...:D
    #15
  16. thesurvivalist

    thesurvivalist Backcountry Rider

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Oddometer:
    580
    Location:
    Colorado Springs
    The one with the puck dent is an 06 22k miles with full luggage $4500
    I found one that is an 08 14k miles. No luggage. $6000. Is 6k ok for a mint 08?
    #16
  17. hdxbones

    hdxbones Adventurer

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Oddometer:
    44
    Location:
    CT

    I recently paid 6000-ish for an 09 with full luggage, 5600 miles
    #17
  18. caryder

    caryder Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2007
    Oddometer:
    217
    Location:
    Phoenix
    Huh... I bought my 06 Buell Uly from Colorado Springs. It's for sale in the flea market. The frame was scuffed on the left side when I bought it 4 years ago. Still is.


    Chuck
    #18
  19. unlucky1

    unlucky1 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2011
    Oddometer:
    298
    Location:
    Perched above the Salish Sea
    1700-2000 is just about the resonant maximum of the engine/mounts. It will shake a lot in that range. The gauges are soft mounted for a reason :)
    #19