Building a Single Track

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Tetched, Nov 29, 2009.

  1. Tetched

    Tetched Local Village idiot

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    I have a 4.6 mile track at my place and am extending it another couple miles. Currently it's pretty mild with a few ravine crossings and a couple small hill climbs. I have bypasses around the hill climbs. The track is marked with Black arrows and the bypasses are in red. Here are a few photos of the current track just after cutting it out thru the woods


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    off camber
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    tight section
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    Ravine
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    Top of one of the hills

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    It's basically a ride in the woods with very little challenge as far as rough terrain goes. It is a little tight in spots with some tight turns. it is not as flat as it looks in the pics,there is probably as much as 200/300' of elevation change with alot of off camber hillside trail. Here are some options that I would like and can add to this track. drop off into a small rocky creek for 100/150yds. Some rock ledge obstcales. (up/down over) and some log crossings.More hillside/off camber stuff.

    I'm planning to mark the main route in black with the tougher off chutes in a different color and all bypasses in red. I am only a spectator at races so am not to familiar with what to put in for other riders. I am planning on opening this up for the local area (yea,got the waivers etc...) for local dirt riders only. NO QUADS so I can keep it a true single track. I ride alot of local quad trails and backroads,but nowhere can you go just for bikes.Soooooo..

    Should I widen out the turns to keep it flowing,or leave them tight ?

    What would YOU look for in a nice practice track?

    I would like this to be somewhere where the local boys could come and pound out several practice laps without any interuption from quads or jeeps etc. Once it's broke in I hope to open up in April for riders. So I have a few months to work on it. Total track loop should be around 5.5 to 6 miles when finished

    Any Ideas or thoughts would be appreciated

    m
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  2. Tigercubkid

    Tigercubkid Kdx lovin!

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    I think the turns should be bermed and wide enough to take at a medium lean with a leg out at about 20mph, but mix it up to keep it interesting! Make the track as winding as possible to make it as long as possible, even switchback the uphills to save from excessive erosion and make it more technical. Off camber is great but change the angles often, include short cuts and alternate routes to make the track seem longer and give beginners a way out. Make an exclusively hard section! Clump your obtacles together in obviously technical areas of terrain to keep the parts that should be fast and flowing from being frustratingly slow. Employ local volunteers who do ride for hands that work as well as input of what they would like done. Did I mention berms? Make lots of them, they are fun. Keep the trail wide enough in most places to fit two bike or a quad but also build in some bottle necks to keep it interesting! All this in my own opinion.
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  3. DirtyOldMan

    DirtyOldMan Long timer

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    Can I come over and play?:D
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  4. Bucho

    Bucho Long timer

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    I wish you were on the other side of VA so I could come play.

    Keep it tight. Make it hard.
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  5. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    Dude, He rides a KLR. :deal
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  6. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    No hard feelngs meant. :D

    Bucho said: "Keep it tight. Make it hard."

    The KLR, while being a good bike, is not the best tool for tight/hard single track.

    My 54 year old Brother decided to buy a bike this Summer (after 25 years of not riding) When he asked me what he should buy I told him (without hesitation) to get a KLR :D SO HE DID.

    Good on you for using yours as intended. :thumb
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  7. CodyY

    CodyY ADVenture Capitalist

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    Keep it tight. It'll widen on it's own.

    Invite 10 of your best riding buddies over to "burn it in".

    If you don't have 10+ guys that ride singletrack, put a post up on KTMtalk and here in regionals. Have a ride day at your place with some local Enduro and HS guys. You'll have great trail in no time.
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  8. Hatch

    Hatch PAR OG

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    +1

    this guy knows what he's talkin about, couldnt have said it any better.:thumb
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  9. Powershouse

    Powershouse Flower Sniffer

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    That's a proper KLR! :clap
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  10. swingset

    swingset Got the knack.

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    Looks good Mike, I enjoyed what you had done when I was down there in the spring, I wish I could have gotten down again this year to visit but work had me pretty addled.

    I'm in the "make it a challenge" camp for a home-track, if for no other reason than it's a safe, close and easy place to hone your skills at your leisure...but I guess it depends on who uses it most, but that would be my preference.

    I'm doing a similar set up with my meager 44 acres this winter, and plan on utilizing the terrain as best I can to make it a challenge by including the creek banks, hills and tight sections.
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  11. danny4744

    danny4744 Been here awhile

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    Thought that was maryland or wv, i think you're on the right 'track' my friend. I'm....so....jealous.
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  12. thumpazuki

    thumpazuki wannabe

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    Man I envy you. I own 129 acres of private, wooded land at the base of a small mountain and no time to make a trail system like that. I will definitely try to find 10 riders or so that are interested in grinding out a trail with me this spring. That makes a lot of sense. Or I can just wait until my kids are older and turn them loose on it.
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  13. 75monza

    75monza Been here awhile

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    Cool. I really like what you have done with the place. A lot of people who I know that ride would be more than willing to help out if you let them ride around too.


    Before I moved out of my Dad's place I did a project like this. We have about 13 acres to work with on his property. Me and my friend managed to cut in about 3 miles of trails. I was told to go for it, but I had to make everything wide enough for a 4 wheeler so that my dad could get around to work on his trees and such with a quad and tools like a chain saw or a weed-eater for the brush.

    He now has all his friends bring their toys over to his place for BBQ's and riding days. It is not much, but it is only 10 minutes from town.
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  14. MAXVERT

    MAXVERT OG on da OC

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    Google Wernex Report
    You'll get the AMA trail building guide.
    Lots of interesting information on single track trail building.
    MAX
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  15. mcfear

    mcfear now known as many things

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    who the hell knows these days :D
    no offence, but its not the bike. its the rider that makes the bike.
    holycaveman off klr650.net below.

    observe.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY0hzNVq_h0

    the KLR is just as capable, and with a few mods, it can become easily more then capable.
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  16. Poacher Bob

    Poacher Bob Persona non grata

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    Put up signs that say "Wheeled vehicle travel only!" must be a reaction to all the "Foot travel only" signs all around me :nod
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  17. tacodriver

    tacodriver Adventurer

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    If you want to make some fun single find an animal trail and follow it until it peters out then bushwack. Helps if you have screens in front of the rads to keep the sticks out. That gully looks good to spice it up I would zig zag across it. Most of all have fun.:D
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  18. dirtridr5115

    dirtridr5115 dirtridr5115

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    hey tected... I wanna come ride the trails now that I finally got a decent woods/trail bike (DRZ 400). So my question to you is.. after all this time are the trails still in existance? I know you been on the 990 kick lately (no more 'small' bike trail riding) so I just wondering if the trails are actually still there still? I can be there sometime in the late spring/summer to ride the trails if you can find a appropriate bike by then (not the 990).
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  19. Foot dragger

    Foot dragger singletracker

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    Singletrack is singletrack,like maybe 23" wide,once you start making it quad width it isnt singletrack its doubletrack.

    There are sites you can google that would tell you how to make sustainable trail. Having a trail go straight up anything steep will quickly become a rut and can go from bad to worse with a bunch of bikes using it,especially once 1 bike gets stuck and digs a ditch. Switchbacks are the thing and need to be maintained to work.

    The singletrack we have here rarely involves catching 3rd gear,steep and tight. A trail you can ride through without much thought quickly becomes boring. But I ride a dirtbike and not a KLR,never seen a KLR on our singletrack in the 40 years Ive been riding.

    The quickest way to wreck a trail is for a rider with no clue to get stuck over and over and sit and spin,can ruin a trail in a half hour that has been good for years.
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  20. crofrog

    crofrog Long timer

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    I'd say never cut down any tree's bigger than a thumb try to just let the trail flow organically. Leave some log crossings in there, even ones that are above your current skill level. For a true "practice track" you want a little bit of everything. Some hard up hills, some flowy fast sections that'll hopefully develop some ruts or berms and some tight bar banging enduro sections.

    Throw in some rocks and let some braking bumps and whoops develop in a few places and you've got a great training loop.
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