Burgman 650; Runner up in RideApart Touring MC of the year

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  1. GREY.HOUND

    GREY.HOUND Been here awhile

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    Link? I don't seem to find it. Thanks.
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    http://rideapart.com/2013/12/rideapart-motorcycle-year-awards/3/

    Tourer Runner-Up: Suzuki Burgman 650

    How It Moves The Needle: 90 percent of the distance ability of a Gold Wing in a lighter, more affordable, much easier to use package.

    Why It Didn’t Win: The small wheels and very low center of gravity lead to low-speed awkwardness and, well, it’s a scooter.
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  4. trainman

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    Well I can tell you after owing several Goldwings and now a 650 Burgman, plus my dual sport bikes that the 650 Burgman is truly a fun scooter to ride. Never thought I would tour on it, but it will do it without any problems, in fact I might just put it to the test one day. Funny thing is that now the dual sport bikes set in the shop and the 650 Burgman is the ride of choice, how could this happen, well just ride one and you will see. One thing I have to disagree with is that I find the low speed handling of the 650 Burgman very good, maybe this is because I ride dual sport bikes and adapting the scooter to slow speed handling is not so much a problem for me, I find parking lot turn and control very easily done.

    John
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  5. JerseyBiker

    JerseyBiker Living the life!

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    It's a scooter...........lol. At least they are honest.

    I toured a bit on B650 with my wife. So comfy!

    Surprised to see they would make it #2. Scooters have come a long way in acceptance!
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  6. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    If I wanted a touring rig, Burgman would be my no.1 choice.
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    I always thought a scooter could outmaneuver a motorcycle at low speed. Perhaps a scooter requires a more sensitive balance. I can't remember seeing anyone struggle with a scooter at low speed, but I have seen touring motorcycles go over 90 degrees. Crunch.....crunch.
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  9. RedArrow

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    Yeah, what are they talking about? My scooter is much easier to handle at low speeds than my bf's 250 dual sport. It certainly doesn't take the concentration to make little circles at low speed then a motorcycle does. Are we supposed to just take what they say at face value? Lower center of gravity plus smaller wheels are supposed to add up to harder to maneuver at low speed? What am I missing here?
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    As I get older, a lot older, I find comfort in my dedication to scooters instead of the large motorcycles I see other ageing men on. I had a 1000cc Goldwing for half a year, and decided that I was setting myself up for a low speed tumble some day. My scooters are heavy for scooters at 330 lb., but are easy to handle. A lighthearted experience. I don't have to think hard or plan my moves when parking, or carry a cast metal plate to put under my side stand.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/29821169@N06/9278883062/sizes/o/in/photostream/ I see old guys riding big tricycles because apparently they have lost their ability to manage a big 2 wheeler and won't give up the huge engine. I saw a guy lose control of his Harley putting it on a sidestand- he was a chunky guy about 5'2" tall. Five guys rushed to help put it upright, it was lying completely on its side, crushing the saddlebags. I even saw a terrified looking old man with training wheels on a huge Goldwing riding down the highway at about 35 mph. A large segment of the biking population is ageing quickly. Too bad so many stay with big instead of switching to scooters.
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  11. Starky14

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    Being new to scooters, when I picked up my 650 Burger about six months ago, I did think it was a pig at low speed. I was not happy with it at all.

    Now I flick it around like a toy at low speed, I simply use my trials experience and nerve to keep my feet up. Works great.

    Maybe the Tester did not have a lot of experience on a Scooter.
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  12. klaviator

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    It's not just the old guys riding bikes that are too big for them. I see it in men and women of all ages. Too much of the bigger is better mentality. Personally, I'd take the Burgman over their first pick, the goofy looking and heavy F6B, in a heartbeat. That is if I was looking for a big touring bike, which I'm not.
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  13. ice1

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    too big, too heavy, and too expensive
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    Perspective. The last bike I had before buying these scooters was a V-Strom 650. I was almost embarrassed to tell some of my bike friends about "the little bike" I bought (the V-Strom, not the PCX). :evil

    By small scooter standards, the Burgman 650 is HUGE! But, if you want a scoot to eat up miles on the highway, it is well-proven. Since the category is "Touring MC of the Year," you have to give kudos to the B650 that it came out ahead of other, LARGER DISPLACEMENT, motorcycles.

    No, you aren't going to move it around in a parking lot as easy as a Honda PCX, but if touring is the job description, it is the right tool for the job. What may be too small, too big, too expensive, or too heavy depends on your perspective... what you came from and what you intend to do with the scoot.

    Best wishes,
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    As far as scooters go, I prefer smaller ones. But having owned 2 Goldwings, I can definitely see how the Burgman 650 would be the way to go. One third the price, and way better mileage. The Goldwing has become a 2 wheeled car, and I have heard that Honda plans on making it even bigger. I do wish Suzuki would fix the Burgman's transmission issues. I can see buying a used Burgman 650 as a touring bike if not for that. I no longer have the budget for a new one.
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  16. Chillis

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    The BMW K1200LT I used to ride, '05 first year with assisted center stand, was too big, too heavy, and too expensive.

    I would take the Burgman 650 over that bike any day without a test ride on the burger.

    About that article in general; there was almost too much Honda love going on. Not that it isn't possible. Does furrow a brow with suspicion.
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  17. Cortez

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    Issues I've read about on it's transmission as far as I've seen have been resolved in model year 2004, or, 10 years ago.

    Is there anything new?
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  18. JerryH

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    Goldwing owners tend to be total fanatics about their bikes, and most would not even consider riding anything else. If they get to where they cannot handle them on 2 wheels, they make a trike out of them. I had a lot of problems with mine, and never understood the love and loyalty most owners have for them, even when they do have problems.

    As far as the Burgman transmission problems, from all the research I've done, the problems seems to be somewhat sporadic, and can affect all years. However it only seems to affect a small number of scooters, so far. It seems to be caused by the electric motors and plastic gears used to shift the transmission. Many have suggested that shifting it manually is hard on it. I have a fear of plastic parts in engines since my '96 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic, bought used with 30,000 miles on it, had an engine failure at 37,000 miles, because of a broken plastic oil pump gear.

    There does seem to be a lack of really good information available about this issue, though the problem is known to exist.
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  19. Chillis

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    Lack of information is due to the "problem" being a few isolated incidents. If you want to generalise a bike's reliability based on this then you can miss out on a great machine... according to most every owner of this model.
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    Just at the time they would most enjoy a scooter, the old guys get huge trikes. Gotta have the big engine.:puke1
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