Bushnell ONIX 400

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by Drifter, Jan 11, 2007.

  1. PowerT

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    Ok I spent about 5 minutes with this at the Nashville, TN Bass Pro Shop. It appears to be a solid unit. I saw what appeared to the ability to select a route and there was an option in the menu for tracks. I don't know any more.
    There was not a signal in the building and it was in demo mode. The picture they had in it was of the Washington Monument and it look very similar to what you see in google.
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  2. Jay

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    It does weather maps, XM radio, etc.

    www.bushnellgps.com

    * User-friendly interface Menu function gives you easy access to all features of your unit in one simple screen
    * XM Satellite Radio Subscription access to weather and over 170 channels of XM Satellite Radio programming, featuring news, sports, talk, entertainment and music.
    * XM Satellite Weather Real-time NEXRAD weather data for right where you stand, downlinked via XM Weather
    * Layer a satellite photo, topo map, compass, navigational aids and XM services on a single screen with TruView Navigation
    * Extra-large 3.5" full-color LCD
    * Downloads and displays geo-referenced satellite photography
    * Displays XM Weather data on the GPS map*
    * XM Satellite Radio entertainment, including XM sports*
    * SafeTrack™ battery-conservation mode
    * SiRF® GPS receiver
    * Digital compass
    * Embedded 128 micro SD card
    * Rugged rubber armor
    * Waterproof (IPX7 rated)
    *With XM Satellite subscription
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  3. rwamf

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    Does it do Tracking? and does it allow you to save tracks and also Import them?
    If not? It would be Worthless for my use.
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  4. joenuclear

    joenuclear Planning.....

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  5. NDEBT

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    I seen this earlier and bought 1. It looks like it will do what I need it for. I'm sure it is no Garmin but it looks as if you can have unlimited map downloads for $29.00 a year. I'll find out I guess.
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  6. rwamf

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    They do not show that on their web page, or at least do not advertise that $29.00 program, most all of the reviews I have seen complain about how exspensive the downloads are, The Lowrance Downloads program is also very expensive.
    I know that Delorme offers a $29.95 a year unlimited downloads, but I have not seen anyone else that has that kind of a deal,
    Could be a cool GPS , especially at that price. I wonder if it handles TRACKS??
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  7. NDEBT

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    Thats the way I read it anyway. Go to this link and click purchase photos and maps. You don't need to register. http://store.bushnellgps.com/login.cfm
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  8. Zecatfish

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    It will hold 1000 Waypoints and 20 Routes.

    I can't find the number of trails and points yet...


    .... edit
    Found the trails, it will do 20 trails too, but no mention of how many points. :sad
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  9. 9Dave

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    Bushnell Onix 400

    Merged with the original thread
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  10. toddlamp

    toddlamp Been here awhile

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    woot.com had these for sale for $99 + $5 shipping. I picked one up and will try it out. My main purpose for getting it was for the ability to get NEXRAD weather read outs. The Garmin 376c was out of my price range. I think the Onix 400 will supplement my 2820 just fine.

    Only issue is that the 400 looks HUGE.
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  11. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    I ordered on too, more to try it out, I'm not real happy with the Bushnell GPS PC software, I don;t see where it can import GPX files or anything else.
    I'm also intrigued by the unlimited maps for $29.95 year. If they're current and detailed it might be useful.

    Its not that large. I've found a few pictures of it in a hand. I think the screen is about the same size as my XOG.


    edit......

    I acted hastily when I ordered more research shows that the Onix does not import GPX tracks, there is no converting gpx tracks to it either, I emailed Bushnell to ask about it but I seriously think the answer is going to nil.

    I'll work with it some but I think its going to go on fleabay by Christmas.
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  12. AustinDude

    AustinDude Been here awhile

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    I don't know the normal price, but you can get it this moment for $99.99 + $5 shipping. www.woot.com
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  13. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    Just got this reply from Bushnell Electronics

    I've emailed them again to see if they might release the Tracks/Route/Waypoint data format specs so that the good folks at gpsbabel can support the Onix devices.






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  14. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    First impressions.....
    The Onix came in today.

    ITs a beautiful unit, roughly the same size as my hand.
    The screen is the typical PDA size and vivid colors.
    Menus are easy to understand and navigate.
    The base map is useless, when you first power on the unit it is pointed at an included satellite photo. Detail on the one image is good, I wonder if it is typical of all the sat images?

    I just performed the update rebooted the device. It appears to be Windows Mobile based, but I can't verify that yet.

    Navigating around the screen with arrow buttons, appears slow:cry even slower than my Ifinder Pro and it was loaded with topo maps for the whole state.

    First lock is slow, about 4 minutes my XOG does it in under 60 seconds.

    There is no support for GPX tracks, or a utility to convert gpx tracks to Onix tracks, this alone is deal breaker and makes the unit almost useless, without the ability to view tracks on anything but their own limited software. I've email Bushnell about releasing at least the data file format information so that gpsbabel could include it for converting tracks. This was not received well by them. MAYBE if everyone was flood them with emails requesting it they would release a utility to do the conversion. The data file is a binary format file.

    I'm also not seeing the ability to load previously saved tracks but that may just be that I hadn't found it yet.
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  15. Zecatfish

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    The Onix appears to use a form of geo referenced jpg named .pho for the Topo maps. The images look like lossy type jpg compression, lines are fuzzy and the images are slow to load. It slows down screen scrolling even more. :cry

    Ok I gues thats enough, I'll either give it to the kids ot use or its going to go on ebay or if anyone is interested pm me. I'll include my one year subscription I just purchased to their map service.

    Ok no more ramblings, I may make one trip with it to compare to the XOG.

    Its aquiring lock fast enough now. Has a little wandering here in the house but does aquire lock through the roof so I would expect it to hold lock in the woods well enough.
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  16. rwamf

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    Terry, Thanks for the Update, good to know.
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  17. Zecatfish

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    There is hope,
    I'm working with the good folks at GPSBabel. We're working on reverse engineering the data file format. They started on it last year and the original interested party vanished on them, wouldn't return emails etc. So it was stuffed to back burner.

    So far its far from prime time, but decoded the latitude (mostly) and the icon placement in the data file. :clap
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  18. Zecatfish

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    If anyone is still reading this, things are moving quickly, if you bought one of an Onix 400 don't give up hope and think your alone turkey in the GPS world. :lol3
    GPSBabel developers have the preliminary code done, hopefully in the next release, there will be support for Onix trails, and waypoint conversions. :clap
    I've seen some of the converted tracks and it works on waypoints.
    Trails are next, then comes routes.

    The worthless basemap is the biggest issue, and loading a large area of the topo images, or satellite images slows the thing down to much. But I can see it doing good at tracking if nothing else. I really like the display.
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  19. Wentil

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    Thanks for the heads-up. I downloaded the latest Beta version of GPS Babel but the Onix isn't on it yet. Hopefully they'll add it in a future revision -- I think that every Onix user would be extremely happy to have an alternative to the really, really, bad Base Map, not to mention the very challenging-to-use Bushnell map download site.

    Garmin built a plug-in that lets you send Google Maps data right to their GPS units. It boggles the mind that Bushnell isn't doing likewise, or of further expanding the functionality of the Onix 400. There's a lot more they could do with the unit!

    If they're trying for a follow-up monetization of the product, they should just offer all the Maps at once on a CD for $100. It's far more likely that people would buy one than go through the unlikely process of buying 100 maps online -- and a side benefit is their user base would not get so insanely frustrated with the product and/or their terrible web site.

    They'd better hurry -- the iPhone running Google Earth has almost already made the huge, heavy Onix 400 nigh-obsolete for non-absolute-wilderness trekkers.
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  20. mpanther

    mpanther KotW - Just Ride!

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    Good to know, i was just about to list mine on FleaBay.

    Maybe i will hold out for a few weeks.
    Please keep us updated.
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