Butt Lube? How Can I Reduce Pants:Seat Friction?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Snapper, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. dddd

    dddd Been here awhile

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    buy a seamless moisture wicking short; its a new skin for you:
    google:
    ldcomfort
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    I never ride without it. (shirt and short, long legging in spring/fall.)
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  2. RVDan

    RVDan Long timer

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    Udder cream. Initially meant for live cows, it will also make your dead cow skin smoother.
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  3. Coachgeo

    Coachgeo Diesel Adventurer

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    you might consider also lowering your foot pegs below stock. It apparently is not an unusual modification and for the very same reason you mention. To decrease knee angle.
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  4. Barry

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    Hit your seat with Pledge. That should help a lot.
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  5. nogathump

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    Racers use baby powder. It seems to work into the leather after a while so you don't need to put it on all the time.
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  6. Snapper

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    Thanks for all the great ideas folks, I got a few things to try now.

    Lower pegs won't help - it's not so much the angle my knees are in, it's more the constant narrow range of movement they are asked to work in. A 100 mile ride is like doing 500 *half-inch* squats from a seated position - 5000 revolutions on a bicycle pedal is fine though. Anyways, no available ground clearance, my peg feelers are almost worn though, and another reason I have to keep moving my skinny ass.

    Tried talc yesterday on a 60 mile ride, and did work every well, but I found it extremely short-lived. Applied twice on the ride and felt like I was back to Velcro in about 30 miles (maybe ~ 150 move-my-ass corners?) . Might try it for few more rides and see if it's a matter of absorbing into the seat/leather.

    I'm a little leery of using "wet" stuff like lotions, creams and sprays due to the potential for bad chemical reaction with the vinyl - I've read some reports of seats disintegrating, but that was ArmourAll, which I would never use. Skin use products like the suggested Chamois Butt'r and Utter Cream sound benign though.

    Once again, thank you all for the recommendations.
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  7. Smoke Eater 3

    Smoke Eater 3 Been here awhile

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    On my track bike, I have knee grippers on the tank and I do Armor All the seat. I rarely sit my weight on the seat at the track unless I'm ripping down a straight. I like being able to slide easily off the seat for cornering.
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  8. Snapper

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    ^^ With no ill effect to the seat vinyl? Could just be my bike uses crappy vinyl.... CLICKY
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  9. Smoke Eater 3

    Smoke Eater 3 Been here awhile

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    Yeah, Armor All is terrible stuff and has ruined many dashboards over the years. It's my track bike to its more likely to get binned by my own stupidity than over cracked vinyl.
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  10. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    Or soft padding, you sink in and now you need to slide out of the hole.

    Sheepskin makes it worse.

    Some baby powder is talc, some is talc and corn starch. Avoid the latter unless on the skin.

    Silicone based leather treatments might work well for slippery. But leather is porous, anything with fluid in it will soak in.

    Learning to corner hard without hanging off solves the problem, as has been mentioned.
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  11. atomicalex

    atomicalex silly aluminum boxes

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    Is this basically the "kiss the mirror" idea? If so, I have to say, it is fun to ride like this, even if you do look like you have a pole up your butt. It's remarkably stable.

    Thank you, I have some gloves that have issues with stickiness and no amount of polish has helped. Maybe there is hope for them after all.

    To the OP - a GF simply puts a bandana on the seat and sits on that. It slides great. There is only the risk of losing it if you do pop up to stretch.
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  12. Buliwyf

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    I thought we wanted our butts to stick to the seat?

    Many years ago at the Cleveland Bike show I sat on a few race bikes they had on display. Particularly a Ducati 998 and an Orion CBR900. (yeah, long time ago)

    They had thin closed cell foam pads glued to the tail for a seat. With no hard rubber/plastic coating those seat pads were impossible to slide across. I stuck like glue to those.

    I thought that was the point, so they could hang off with maybe 1" of thier rear on the seat. Or to minimize thier body movement when the bike gets upset. Or to be stuck to the bike and feel the rear tire better. I don't know for certain, but those were our guess's.

    I just remembered how much easier it is to drift a car when your strapped down to it tightly with 5 point belts.
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