Buying a 250 soon

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  1. RuffnReadyXJ

    RuffnReadyXJ Strait 250 adventure'n...

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    I'm finally getting a thumper this month. I have my heart set on a CRF250L. Looks like the going rate in my area, San Francisco Bay Area, is 5800 OTD. Is it just me or is that nuts? This is my first time buying a new bike so I'd like to do this right.

    My back up plan is a KLX250S, I like them a lot but the Honda is EFI. As much as I want the Honda I won't pay any mark ups just out of principal. Looks like the Kawi is abundant seeing how it is nothing new and the prices seem more flexible.

    I've already got all my farkles picked out but I'll leave those for my future build thread.

    Thanks!
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  2. montesa_vr

    montesa_vr Legend in his own mind

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    The so-called "out the door" price is a little hard to compare from one state to another, because license, registration and sales tax vary enormously. Still, $5,800 seems high. The suggested retail price is $4,500. To get to $5,800 your dealer would have to soaking you full retail price plus full destination, plus some kind of setup charge, plus whatever your state is getting for taxes and tags. You might be able to do better.
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  3. DrMoto

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    I saw a klx250s on Craigslist here (Savannah) recently with 300 miles for <$3k. I wouldn't pay $6k for a new 250 when nearly new ones can be had for half that. I do like EFI, though.
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  4. DrMoto

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    ...not sure why the rest of my post did not make it.
    Less than $3k for nearly new bike. I wouldn't spend $6k on a 250.
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  5. dankatz

    dankatz Been here awhile

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    Agree that $5800 OTD is outrageous. How set are you on the CRF250L and why? It is a great bike for sure, but is too new so the prices are steep. The 2009+ KLX250S sold in abundance and there are many used ones on the market in the $3-$4k range. There are pluses and minuses to each of the bikes, but overall they are equivalent. A DRZ400S is about the same weight as the CRF250L, though somewhat taller. For $75 a kouba link will lower it 2" to the same height. It has a better suspension and a stronger motor. 2005-2007 models could be had for 3-4k.
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  6. cnj

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    $5800 OTD for a CRF250L is stupid. EFI is nice, but it is not the be-all, end-all in fuel delivery. A properly jetted carb will perform quite nicely. Buy the KLX for a heck of alot less and have fun!
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  7. sealsam

    sealsam Sam...I am.

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    Buy what you like at a price you are happy with. Maybe some of us can throw out examples of what we got at what kind of price...

    Got my brand new '12 out the door for $5200, and a $50 credit in the parts dept. This bike has been an absolute blast!!

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  8. Roadrunner

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    We paid $4200 OTD on 1 2008, then another one later - both new Yamahas XT250's (the first in New Mexico, the second in Colorado).
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  9. RuffnReadyXJ

    RuffnReadyXJ Strait 250 adventure'n...

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    Originally the KLX was my first choice but then the Honda came out last fall and I've grown to like it. The EFI is great out of the box, I understand the California model KLX is really lean and needs to be jetted (big deal, easy fix). One thing I like about the Kawi is less hype from the dealers and it has adjustable suspension.

    The other thing is Honda financing is cheaper then Kawis right now so that will offset some of the cost. I love living in the bay, everything is expensive! :puke1

    It's not the 5,800 that's a problem, it's "I'm not going to pay extra just because your asking" that's a problem.

    I'm not gonna lie I saw that new black/red Kawi at the dealer and it looks good!
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  10. palmstatecrawler

    palmstatecrawler Been here awhile

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    If you intend to keep the bike forever then buying new is a good idea. I have purchased two of my bikes brand new and never regretted it. Financing will make you pay $500-$1000 more than cash but if you "need" it now it is better than no bike. I purchased a 2007 klx250 last year with less than 600 miles on it for $2200. It was ridden by an older guy in georgia mainly on the street and looked brand new. Bottom line, do your research and get what YOU want. But make sure you get it on your terms and expand your search to dealers in nearby towns. I drove 8 hours to get that deal when there was another one 30 minutes from me for $500 more than I paid. $100 on gas vs $500... you figure it out.
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  11. Off the grid

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    If you are in that price range, why not look at the WR250R? It's head and shoulders above the Red and Green ones.
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  12. RuffnReadyXJ

    RuffnReadyXJ Strait 250 adventure'n...

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    The WR is friggn nice too. Aluminum frame and I hear the suspension is pretty sweet. I haven't actually price shopped those but I think they are a few grand more around here. Problem is I really like the BMW 650 series like the Sertao and I feel like if I spend that much on a WR I might as well buy the damn BMW.

    The price and size of the 250s are great, plus I'm 6 foot 140 pounds all day so I'll wait on a BMW. Especially since this will be my first street legal bike I figure a 250 is a good bike to feel things out on the streets. Plus I'll keep it for ever and pass it down to the hifey wifey or kids one day.

    Got a list off Hondas web site of 13 dealers with in a 50 mile radius. Next step I'll call each and write down who has inventory so I can shop around. A lot of these dealers sell Kawis too.
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  13. RuffnReadyXJ

    RuffnReadyXJ Strait 250 adventure'n...

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    Just went on Hondas web site and the 2014 price went up 200 bucks, does any one know of any changes or no?
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  14. Navin

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    If you will ride it hard enough to confuse the CV carby, spend a few hunny on a pumper carb and forget it. Speaking as a former Burg 570 owner, I kept my FCR carbed KTM in favor of the reliability and simplicity. Performance is the same if you take the time to properly set it up. With a JD jet kit that may take an hour unless you go ride in huge elevation changes.

    I've seen J. Wienert race a KLX300 at a pace I can only dream of on a full blown MX 450. The platform is plenty capable to exceed what 99% will subject it to.
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  15. ckjj888

    ckjj888 Been here awhile

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    KLX250:clap:clap
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  16. pig-bun

    pig-bun Feeding the World

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    Just picked up a 09 klx250s with 2740 miles for $2500. Looked new, never been off road. Cash/private deal.
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  17. RuffnReadyXJ

    RuffnReadyXJ Strait 250 adventure'n...

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    What constitutes a big elevation change? I'm at sea level and plan on riding 0-3k feet from my house. Tahoe and Nevada desert is from 4-6 or 7k average.
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  18. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    And what type of riding do you plan to do? Streety stuff, dirt roads? Hard core trails at walking speeds? Race pace trails, jumping whoops or skimming them?

    For the most part, the well adjusted CV carb is fine, even with big swings in altitude. When you start picking up the pace and upsetting the vac supported slide and flooding the bike from the floats bouncing, you need the dirt oriented carbs, like a FCR that is at the end/peak of its development and benefits from years of R&D by every serious off road race team and rider on the planet.
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  19. RuffnReadyXJ

    RuffnReadyXJ Strait 250 adventure'n...

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    I'm a little conservative when I ride but we know how that goes. I'll probably end up hammering it. All in all I hate to admit it but most of the miles will be on road. I live in really urban area so I'll be going up in the hills, riding to work (no freeway and less then 20 miles round trip), taking it to get coffee or what ever. I'm more interested in being able to trailer it to Nevada or where ever and hit up fire roads, open desert and so on. I think of my self of more of an out doors men who likes to sight see and explore but enjoys the ride along the way. If that involves laying the bike down on some rocky sections or crossing some creeks I'm all for it, part of the adventure.
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  20. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    I doubt you'd dislike the KLX, or need more than it offers right away. It is a great start that can be modded up to 350cc and pumper carb, pipe, suspension upgrades and the ability to do just about anything pretty well. There isn't a reason it couldn't keep up with your needs as they expand IMO.

    If you are not going to tolerate dealing with a choke, well, so be it. I read that quite a bit and don't really get it. I've dealt with clogged injectors and fuel pumps on both my Husaberg and a WR250R. When FI stuff works, they are great. When they don't, they suck.

    My $0.02, if/when you get really serious about fast, hard off road, you get the serious bikes, KTM/Husky if you need a legal plate. All the Japanese DS bikes pale by quite a long bit in comparison. By the time you build any of them up to that level, you have spent as much or more and still weigh too much.
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