buying a new car.

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by nachtflug, Jul 27, 2013.

  1. RockyRaccoon

    RockyRaccoon Found:Gideon's Bible

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    Mazda never made it very high up my list. It may be different now, but when I was looking for a new car six years ago, their engines were behind the curve compared to some of the others in terms of power/fuel efficiency, and the model with the peppier engine cost quite a bit more. The dealer was a lot farther away, too.

    Dealer reputation and convenience are factors to consider.
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  2. adam_c_eckhardt

    adam_c_eckhardt halfway there

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    What is it with Mazda dealers? Anecdotal evidence, but every Mazda dealer I've been to is a second rate hole in the wall setup. As a little boy I remember going with my Dad to pick up an RX-7 and feeling dirty after leaving. Years later he was considering a 626 and both dealers we went to were pretty much the same. I think the one we bought the RX-7 at was "Dom's" in NJ???

    I think if Mazda stepped up their dealer requirements (like most other Brands have done over the years) they'd have a chance at gaining market share.
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  3. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

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    People keep talking about low horsepower on the Cross Trek, so I looked it up. 20 hp less than the engine they have been using for 13 years or so? WTF? Did they learn nothing from the first year Forester?

    Identifying where the loss came from might help solve the problem. For instance, if they have clogged up the air flow with quiet air box and exhaust, it should be easy to rectify with a cold air intake, Borla header, and Flowmaster muffler. That should get it close to standard horsepower numbers, but the improved torque curve is where driveability is at.
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  4. SourKraut

    SourKraut Long timer

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    They went from a 2.5 liter engine to 2.0 as I understand it.
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  5. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

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    The WRX STi had a 2.0, and that thing made over 300. It should be able to manage 170 naturally aspirated. Someone must have stuck a banana in the tailpipe.
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  6. NikonsAndVStroms

    NikonsAndVStroms Beastly Photographer

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    It's an all new 2.0 built for efficiency, when I drove the new Impreza power delivery felt like my 00 Civic. AKA it's fine to drive and can get out of its own way, just you barely have any torque and will have to downshift.
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  7. Venteuri

    Venteuri I don't give a shit

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  8. nachtflug

    nachtflug infidel

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    test drove the Cross Trek and the Imprezza 5 door Sport tonight. The last time I drove the 5 door first and then the Cross Trek, and liked the Cross Trek better. This time I drove the Cross Trek and then the regular Imprezza 5 door sport, but this time also included about a 5 mile jaunt on I84. The same I 84 the Ford dealer wouldn't let me out on. And the Subaru guys don't even ride with you. Tonight the sales guy I dealt with last week was off so I think it was a floor manager. I told him I wanted to get it out on the Interstate but I didn't want to put 15 20 miles on his new car. He was like, "don't worry about it" I kind of brought it up again and he was like "dude, don't worry about it, drive it, if you like it send us a check"..

    Very low pressure sales. Bottom line Imprezza 5 door sport is nicer on the highway and at 27-36 gas it is better than Cross Trek 26-33 gas mileage.

    But I like the Cross Trek height it feels bigger sitting up higher. Someone posted that the Cross Trek Yokohama's were shit on the highway and they may be right. Not that it was terrible I could own either one.

    As far as road noise, who hears road noise over an Audioslave CD cranked up?
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  9. studad

    studad Been here awhile

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    I loved my drive in the Crosstrek. Driving wise, it reminded me a LOT of an 08 wrangler unlimited with tall gears and a stick. NO acceleration after 1st, but if you keep on it, it would keep moving. But it wasn't bad, it was just something to know. I loved the way the thing felt.

    I had a new gen jetta, hated it. they REALLY cheapened it. it was awful. And the vinyl seats were far, far worse than the pleather I had in a couple 5th gen jettas. Still, I put 50k on it and traded it for another vw. :rofl

    The Mazdas have impressed the hell out of me. A month or so ago we were van shopping. I had totaled our vw Routan and Wife was unhappy with what was available now. Just about to give up and buy a used Sienna she sat in a Mazda 5 (really just a big 3) and loved it.

    Short story is I love the Mazda more every day. It's everything the Jettas used to be. It just feels nicer than it should, for the price. The leather is good, the controls are good, etc. I bet a Mazda 3 would be awesome with a stick.
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  10. Ken

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    Not for me. I was trying to find a car for the natfucker who's given up on trying to get any pussy and looking for a decent car.
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  11. seuadr

    seuadr Wee-stromer

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    i've got both of these, actually, an 06 forester with the 2.5 and a '13 impreza with the 2.0 the impreza is peppier. now, the forester isn't "fast" nor is the impreza "fast" but i have no problem with merging on the highway and being a general hooligan with it. :rofl

    we are getting a lifetime average of 32.5 mpg thats about 50/50 city highway as the impreza is a commuter. this is with the CVT. part of what makes it feel so bland IS the cvt. put it in "sport mode" and it comes alive much better.

    RE the yoko tires .. they BOTH suck. a lot. like a really, really lot. my wife's has less than 30k on it yet and even though they check the alignment every time it comes it for an inspection she STILL has cupping and a lot of road noise. reading online indicates this is a known and "sucks to be you" problem.
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  12. BikePilot

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    Yes I believe so (lock up of some sort, I'd assume electronic). Seems a brilliant way of doing it to me. The torque converter bit is pretty standard fare for autos, but it's bolted to something that's roughly the same as a DCT-style gearbox (basically a manual gearbox/clutch that's shifted/clutched by a computer).
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  13. h2o_snow

    h2o_snow Water, snow & dirt too.

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  14. slideways

    slideways permanent ex-pat

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    A used CPO BMW is better than most new cars.
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  15. RockyRaccoon

    RockyRaccoon Found:Gideon's Bible

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    So when are you going to drive your new car home, 'flug? :lurk
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  16. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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  17. David_Moen

    David_Moen Long timer

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    We test drove a Mazda 6 a few weeks ago. Very fun to drive, and the real time mileage numbers displayed on the dash were pretty amazing while just cruising down the highway.

    Also drove a Fusion last week, one with the 2L turbo, and all wheel drive. Firm ride, but quiet. Great looking car too IMHO.
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  18. biggziff

    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    Just got back from driving the 2014 Kia Forte EX with the 2.0 liter engine. Pretty impressive car. For under $20K you get leather, heated and cooled seats, heated rear seats, heated steering wheel, fancy infotainment center, sunroof, 6 speed sport tranny, power everything...oh ya... 5yr 60K on everything and 10yrs 100K on power train.

    reported MPG by owners is 25-29 city and 36 or more highway. One guy claims 41 MPG on a recent 200 mile trip.

    Motor Trend just voted it the best of the comparable cars they tested.
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  19. RockyRaccoon

    RockyRaccoon Found:Gideon's Bible

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    Offer stands. :deal

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  20. Dysco

    Dysco Puppy wrangler

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    Has anyone said Sonata yet? Rented one for a 3k mile road trip. It was awesome.