Call all XR600R!!!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by CSMonte, Dec 8, 2008.

  1. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    Check it out though as after 20 years the rubber bumper on the center stem is toast. I was needing a shock mount redo kit and my rubber bumper was done. I got an extra rear shock for 50 bucks and it had a bad bumper too. In the end had to rebuild a shock.
    (you can't change the bumper without disassembly)
    In the end I've got a stronger spring than stock...

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  2. nonfatwater7

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    Mine isn't quite that old but nevertheless it's probably way past due for a go over. Are these things hard to rebuild? I mean I've pulled apart forks and changed fluid by myself bur never tried a rear shock before...


  3. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    Not that bad, right...
    The red shock is my original 92. The bumper was there but it too was junk. Just poke at it a bit to see how its doing and if it's good.

    Rebuild...
    I gotta admit I stood by and helped a little while my friend did it in his garage. He knows how, has the nitrogen...ect.
  4. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    dude your wasting your time buying another used shock same vintage and expect it to be better...

    anywhoo

    try and rebuild

    but at least know if you have pressure in it... how hard is that?

    good luck!:D
  5. rogervize

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    Hey friends..new here..After reading the thread I thought I'd check the drive shaft splines for wear on my '92 XR600R
    I am seeing significant wear and suspect it's possible that previous owner (and myself) have been using after market sprockets.
    I recently had work done on the bike and they fitted new sprockets(15/48) and chain.
    Almost no miles done so far since the overhaul but I see it is a JT counter shaft sprocket.
    It measures about 9mm thickness at the base and has 4 holes.(and JT logo)
    I guess I should replace this?
    Might go down to 14T as well..Hoping the chain can be adjusted with the smaller sprocket.
    The adjuster is about middle range at present.
    Is the OM sprocket wider on the splines? therefore distributing wear
    It's a low miles bike and hoping to get the maximum out of this baby.
    ...Roger
  6. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    I think they physicaly look the same, it's the material that is different....
    Right?
  7. rogervize

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    Thanks..I think my 15 T is maybe for a 650
    From what I have read on here (and TT) the 650 uses a thinner sprocket which they swap out for the thicker 600R unit.
    I would like the original (OEM) type sprocket for my '92 XR600R.
    The harder metal used in the JT causes excessive wear to the CS splines.
    Thanks to ELSalvadorkLR and others (including yourself)
    Just want confirmation of a suitable brand to replace it.
    Is the XR's Only brand(forget what it is) OK?
    How much wear on the splines would you expect for 10,000Kms..moderate usage?
    Sorry can't supply photo of my splines..not enough light for my camera.
    PS..love your video blog BTW...keep it up!:clap
  8. mcma111

    mcma111 Long timer

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    You have it backwards. The folks on the XR650l thread replace the OE sprocket with the XR650r sprocket or it's copy because it's wider and thus has more engagement with the splines. The OE XR600 and XR650l sprockets are the same width. It's the aftermarket sprockets that are narrower and made out of a harder material that leads to increased countershaft wear.

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    16,000 miles

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  9. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    A decent xr 97. Seems gently used. Rode it a bit off road and shortly on the fwy. Handled it all..well! Surprised they stopped making this or something like it.ru

    If I figure out how to post photos with a phone ..

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  10. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    Too many bikes.
    Makes me wanna take a look at each countershaft just in case, before it's too late.

    :evilJust got back from a dualsport ride. Kind of a county dirt roads thing. It was 5 riders 77 miles round trip.
    I didn't use the 600...went way back and rode the 74 TR5MX Avenger.
    Some dust, some mud and stream crossings. Beer and pizza waiting for us at the end of the ride.
    70 degree day and :deal all is good.

    Didn't want to use up any knobbie depth riding streets with the XR, so...

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    Yeah:clap, my first big bore thumper! 35 years as a dirt bike, plated in 07.
    Fun to ride, but she can't do what the xr does.

    Dualsport ha, not by today's standards, that's why I searched out a plated xr6
  11. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    lookin good!

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  12. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    A chain countersprocket cover and case saver. Any tips appreciated ..
  13. MojoRooster

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    I have a 2000 xr600r with a supertrap isde2 silencer that is way too loud. I think there may be a rear baffle missing, does anyone have pics of one with the quiet insert.

    What are the quietest aftermarket silencers for this bike. Unfortunately I traded my stocker to a friend for this one .

    Has anyone used one from a 450x or even a drz-s or another bike ?
  14. rogervize

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    Just made some enquiries..the local large bike stores in Melbourne only stock JT CS Sprockets
    But...they will order in a OEM 14T if you want to pay a bit more.
    So...my bike has always had JT sprockets most likely
    Would like a 15T if possible but Honda don't have them so I might have to try a 14T
    They are AU$52 for OEM CS Sprocket in 14T
    ...Anyone?
  15. rogervize

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    <you have="" it="" backwards.="" the="" folks="" on="" xr650l="" thread="" replace="" oe="" sprocket="" with="" xr650r="" or="" it's="" copy="" because="" wider="" and="" thus="" has="" more="" engagement="" splines.="" xr600="" sprockets="" are="" same="" width.="" aftermarket="" that="" narrower="" made="" out="" of="" a="" harder="" material="" leads="" to="" increased="" countershaft="" wear.<you="" wear.="">Thanks Steve...is that warn shaft still serviceable?..Kapputsky? (obviously removed from engine but what is the end result and what warning do you get of excessive wear?)
    Was this warn shaft abused with wrong/after market sprockets?
    I read that many of these bikes get high mileage and presume that 13,000 miles would be a-typical for a reasonably well looked after machine?
    What's the PBI brand like from XR's Only (cheap except for the freight to Oz)
    Can I expect to change out chain & sprockets more frequently if choosing a cheap brand?...but I am prepared to do that if it delays splitting the case to replace warn gears and CS.
    Thanks again for your help guys:raabia</you>
  16. rogervize

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    20 Too Many....I have my 1974 Yam TY250 (not a Sammy Miller replica but... a Mick Andrews version)
    So....:D
  17. duxrneet

    duxrneet Been here awhile

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  18. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    Are you saying we should get together for a vintage ride?
  19. mcma111

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    Since that engine was coming apart it made no sense to leave that shaft in there even if it could get some more miles. There is to much work involved to replace the shaft. My guess is the PO wore out the OE sprocket and then used aftermarket gears. You saw the results.

    OE gears are available in 14, XR600 and 15, XR650l. XR650r in 14.
  20. MortimerSickle

    MortimerSickle Semi-Adventurer

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    Presumably, using OEM sprockets, or lucking out on aftermarket sprockets, the shaft will last forever. I put over 14000 street miles on my XL500, and then flogged it on the trails for about 20 years. I used only aftermarket sprockets on that bike (same spline as my XR600,) and the shaft is as good as new. But, it took only one aftermarket sprocket to destroy the spline on my XR600.

    I will not risk another aftermarket primary sprocket on any bike.

    If it has not already been noted, I should mention that the fine-spline sprocket pictured above will not fit on all of these bikes. My '88 XR600, and my '79 XL500 have six-spline shafts.