Call all XR600R!!!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by CSMonte, Dec 8, 2008.

  1. The Dogger

    The Dogger Been here awhile

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    Interesting , thanks.
    I've aquired some 19 inch wheels ( I need a spoked front rather than the Comstar currently fitted which is now banned from the races due to safety issues ) and the front came as a pair with a rear Talon CRF hub, tyres and brake disc .

    I'm running the stock 18" rear with a skinny Dunlop k180 front , so traction is poor

    A spare sprocket fits , but I'm not sure on the disc. I'll have a proper look after I've sorted the engine .

    Cheers
  2. The Dogger

    The Dogger Been here awhile

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    That looks fun . Is it an Enduro race ? Is the whole course made up of those obstacles , or do you clear those and then head off into the countryside ?
  3. RoostMaster

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    After some excellent advice from other pig owners on the rear suspension, notably, beechum1 & Kenno, I though I'd pass on DISASSEMBLY tips & photo's for future reference for peeps wanting to do the same.

    For the best advice on this subject, refer to beecum1 advice and follow this !. https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bw...MzdkLWFlNTUtNmFmNjE0OTFjOTE2&authkey=CO-Np5cM
    First off, getting to this point aint hard, no special tools required and only took about 45mins... Can anyone chime in and notice what's missing ?
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    This is what's came out, most of it spewed out as a big contaminated foaming mess. I let it settle to check out the heavier crap. !

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    Grinding off the peening.... when manufactured, they 'peen the end of the threat over on the top, this has to be ground off (I used and angle grinder. I've coloured it with yellow texta

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    As you can see it's ground back, well mostly, I could have gone flush with the top of the nut however I did not want to grind the nut at all. The shims in the shim stack need to be kept clean, to prevent and grinding material and metal fragments even getting close, I taped the lot up.


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    Here is the nut with a small left over coil of peened over material which was wound off...
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    Last tip listed is to thread all the shims ect onto wire, at first they look like they are in a nice smallest to biggest order, a closer look reveals other wise DONT GET CAUGHT OUT ! :D

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    I stand to be corrected on any of the above as this is my first time 'round. Gotta wait for assembly tips as this really sounds like fun !
  4. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    awesome job so far roost

    congrats, hope the rebuild back up goes well
    are your using a seal kit? or just rebuilding? what fluid are you going to put back in?

    there are some great options for suspension fluid for the shock if you want to change it up a bit...

    cheers
  5. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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  6. nikolic

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    It was a day one, second and the third day, it was a ride in the forest. It was a extreme enduro race called King of the Hill. Some ended like this

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  7. voltz

    voltz Rebuilding

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    quick intro......been a member here for some time but have been away
    from bikes in recent years.
    having owned 2 XR600's in the past I bought myself another beast over 2
    years ago and it has sat around since then (I have never ridden it )

    Recently (in the last month) I have started purchasing the bits and pieces
    to get back into riding again.

    have been looking at buying a Zeta triple clamp but wanting to know
    if anyone has used one with the Trail tech Vapour setup.
    I have been searching mounting kits etc with no luck

    regards
    Geoff
  8. RoostMaster

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    elsalvadorklr,
    seal kit is going in... I'd very muchly like some advice on shock oil, I've read that you can use ATF (Auto Tranny Fluid)or fork oil ? ? ? H.E.L.P. :ear

    Roost.
  9. RoostMaster

    RoostMaster Been here awhile

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    :bow Dude, old skool 3 day on an XR600..... massive effort, Now that, is gold ! Conditions looks tough how did you pull up after? More pics?:lurk
  10. RoostMaster

    RoostMaster Been here awhile

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    Welcome along Geoff, let us all know what area you are from,:D and we all love to see photo's of XR's so get yours up here ! :1drink

    I have a Trail Tech Vapour and when going it worked well, once, then gave me nothing but basically intermittent operation after that. They have heaps of functions and I like that and the Tacho...How ever, they are not robust nor is the mount, I'm sure others have had luck with them, I've spend more time working on this element of the bike than anything else. I'm gonna look for a push bike speedo for it.

    Roosta
  11. voltz

    voltz Rebuilding

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    thanks for the welcome
    I live on the Mid North Coast of Australia,about 3.5 hrs north of Sydney.

    The bloke I sold my last XR600 to kept the Trail tech Vapour and gave it back
    to me after he sold the bike on,I'm hoping to get it mounted up very soon.
    In the past I have used a pushbike speedo but always had trouble getting
    the magnet to run close enough to the pickup.

    New front disc and pads arrived yesterday so I'm a little bit closer to
    riding again
  12. nikolic

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    Well, I haven't made it to day two, the first day was ended by the organizer on checkpoint 3 (out of 12) because no one could go more. But I ended my race somewhere almost at 2nd check. XR didn't want to start, I kicked for almost an hour, then started pushing it towards some village some 10km's away (0.4 bar tires and mud)...
  13. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    Good job nicolic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:d:d:d:d
  14. nikolic

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    NOt so good, at the end I concluded my decompresor lever was over tight, so when the bike gets hot it wouldn't start... stupid... :bueller
  15. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    ajajaja BUMMER:cry

    yeah I have it as loose as it can go

    be carfeful with the adjustment, better loose than tight...:D
  16. Royal Club

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    went for a ride today with some friends, seemed like the third gear was broken/slipping.. Went home and changed my boots for street purpose ones and gave it a few runs of WOT in third, didnt experience any slipping/hopping in third.. Hope its because of my other boots.. (I don't have any feel in those..)
  17. martin.kryjom

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    HI
    I need U help:)
    I have Honda 1990 with engine done by XR ony ( HRC 628 big bore) with mikuni flat side carb from XR Only either.
    Problem i have , i can not star that bike after is hot. I start when cold, then stop, then try again and nothing ...
    When cold, it starts after few kiks, then when hot , i need to wait until it will cold down.
    I see also that sometimes looks like it is overfloat as fuel is running from the carb under the bike.

    From the other side , when is running, and i try to make a staty throtlle in 3/4 position is not running smooth, is going up and down on rpm.
    What to do?
    I try to do it whole week already and Im lost:(
  18. mcma111

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    Martin,

    The no start when warm can be due to the valves being out of adjustment. 4 thou intake and 5 thou exhaust. Try starting with the choke partially on. If this helps then the pilot jet is to small.

    The fuel flowing out of the carb can be that the float level is to high or this does happen from vigorusly kicking the bike.

    The 3/4 throttle can be helped by changing the needle clip position. Experimant by going up or down a position. Do this after the hard start problem is corrected.
  19. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    martin you need to know what jets you have...tried to help out on your rebuild thread

    the no start hot is most likely from being rich...when hot...thats classice, the oem carb is famous for that when hot, as is the mikuni...

    lean down a bit and rejet the pilot for HOT starts

    noboidy cares if its hard to start cold right? a lot of hondas are cold blooded

    do plug chops too

    I have the exact same carb you have

    right now its a bit hard to start cold but 1 kicker hot...everytime:D

    x2 on the valves

    nice and loose
  20. Royal Club

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    Mine starts hot and cold in 1 kick, no hotstart used:evil:evil