camping in bear country

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  1. Dewey316

    Dewey316 Been here awhile

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    I did want to add to this. Any real world Griz advice will say that you do retreat, but you do so in a way that doesn't identify you as prey. You want to keep facing the bear, stay large, and slowly retreat. The key is to show that you are 1) not a threat, and 2) you are not prey either. There is a ton of great information from actual bear experts on the subject, and you are right on with your advice, it is consistent with what they say. I wanted to add that retreating doesn't mean turning and running. It means facing the bear and slowly backing away to signal that you are not a threat to the bear.
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    Thanks for clearing that up with my retreat comment as it is exactly what I should have included. Don't panic!! The bear is much more of an opportunist than a predator, especially in the lower 48.
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  3. Motosapian

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    Believe it or not, most bear deaths are from black bears because there are more of them. And they do not involve a sow with cubs but a boar who has decided to dine on a human. Think on that.

    I do not like to go camping or hiking unarmed in bear, wolf or cougar country. I sleep better armed. If you are not a firearm person bring the spray.
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    Would it be too much to get a link to the source of your data that allows those statements to be made? Especially the one about boars killing to eat humans.
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    Thank you for providing the link, no need to get defensive.

    According to the abstract in your link; in 109 years there have been 14 fatal black bear attacks in the lower 48. Based on the number of black bears in the lower 48, along with the number of people who live, work and travel through black bear habitat, I'll stick with betting against my having to deal with a predatory black bear.

    Last year while camping on the edge of the Jedediah Smith Wilderness on the Idaho-Wyoming border, a local game warden came riding through my camp, so I decided to ask him about current bear activity. I was a bit more concerned than usual because I knew that the Jedediah Smith Wilderness is where problem bears are re-located out of Yellowstone National Park. His comment was "don't worry about the Grizzlys around here, you would be lucky to see one, the wolf population is what you need to be concerned with".
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  7. Motosapian

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    More chance of getting struck by lightening for sure. And riding a motorcycle in bear country you best be worried about hitting a deer. But the part about predatory boar bears is enlightening.
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    Maybe you'll get lucky, like this guy:

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  9. Motosapian

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    Wow.
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  10. goin2alaska

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    buy the biggest can of bear spray you can find then rub a pork chop behind your ears and test it, then you will know what really works.
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    Mostly good info in this thread. Common sense rules. Be aware of your surroundings. (Even better advice for crowded city zones!) One item I haven't seen here is portable electric fences. They aren't that big to pack and are reported to be very effective for protecting your camp (but attractant placement still applies).

    Tounge in cheek: I tell people the best bet is PAM, butter flavor. Applied appropriately when your buddy is not looking. His back, bike, around his tent. Also good for cooking and as a tire lubricant.
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  12. High Country Herb

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    Yeah, me too. My preference is to have something that will put them down if need be. I would camp in Canada without a gun, because those are the laws, but I would bring bear spray. Most of the time, confrontations with bears can be avoided through good planning.

    As the wolf population grows, they will be a concern as well. I really haven't done much camping where there are significant numbers of them, but I would think an aggressive pack would be worse than a single bear. I imagine they would run at the sound of a gunshot, but if they didn't, a 6-shot big bore revolver would not be very effective against 10 wolves (and a 10 shot 9mm would not be very effective against a large grizzly). I wonder if spray would be as effective on them as bears.
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  13. Bigger Al

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    A bear is nothing much more than a really big dog, so I imagine that the spray might work pretty well on wolves. The problem with them will be the attacks coming from different directions at once. The odds are good that you'll end up getting yourself with the spray, too. Big fun if you've never experienced it, BTW!:-)
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    With any luck, wolves don't like spicy food! :puke1
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    Bigger Al Still a stupid tire guy

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    :lol3
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  17. NicorAdv

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    Well, I thought I might well buy some bear spray.
    Big spray can of it.

    Figured it would be good for 3 uses. Don't really expect to use it at all
    humph... Direction on can state good for 5 secs.
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    Can't get much of a prayer off in 5 seconds. :arg
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    ROFLOL...
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  20. Unstable Rider

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    A guy could go with "Scotty, beam me up".

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