Camping in Yukon- Bear Danger?

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  1. Effisland

    Effisland Been here awhile

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    Pistol grip is ok, barrel can go down to 18 inches. Load slugs or double O buck. Black bears more pesky but they are opportunistic and can take your head off with a well placed cuff. Cougars will come out of nowhere and go for your head. I carried while working in the bush of northern BC, but you don't wait around for the bear when you see sign, you leave quickly. Moose can do damage and are serious stompers. If you're there in the rut even a warning shot will get them going. Grizzlies are getting rare, these days I figure it would be a privilege to be eaten by one, and yes they will eat you. Mainly I say that cause dying by cancer or some other such old disease is way slower and no glory. Yes I'm serious and my wife thinks I'm crazy, but think of it this way, you don't need to save up for a casket and plot. Have a great trip!
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  2. 4951tomm

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    There has been two black bear/human fatalities and a mauling in the last few days here in AK.......That Iv'e heard of..... The state doesn't keep an official yearly tally, hmmmm, I wonder why?......Tourist $$$ perhaps?.......Will continue to recommend packing a gun while camping in bear country, although a person can probably get by without it.....A person can also get by without bug dope, a sleeping pad, toilet paper, a tent, and tire plugs........But I wouldn't recommend it.....
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  5. Effisland

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    I've heard that argument before usually by people who smile when they say how great it would be to blast a bear in the face. Not saying that is you. Grizzlies are getting rare and are likely on the path to extinction at the rate we're going, so far we are upwards of 7 billion people on this planet and I'd be surprised if we had more than 30000 grizzlies world wide. Would I be the first to volunteer for a human sacrifice no. But our solution of killing every last mother fucker we find a bit scratchy is poor stewardship not to mention selfish and also just a little hypocritical. Sorry no csm here!
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    Bears are predictable. canadians on the other hand...
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    I take it back. Judging by the canadian comments on this thread, they actually are pretty predictable.
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  8. The Dick

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    If I was not an old WHITE guy, I would be more afraid of getting shot in Merica than getting eaten by any bear in the Yukon or Alaska! Please someone, find a story or post by anyone in history who has been messed with by a bear while riding or camping while riding a bike in the Yukon or Alaska. YES, there has been some tragic and fatal encounters with bears over the years, people working, being in the midst of wild back country almost everywhere in North America but please find an attack on a motorcycle or even bike rider camped along a major road or highway, even the remote Dempster or even the Haul to no where! My closest one was coming back through the Rockies with Jo on the back of my VFR 750 back when a lot of you were not born and we spotted a sow and a couple of cubs down by the river just before a pull out. Being typical young and stupid, gear down and pull into the look out to witness the sow charging toward and coming over the barrier, I didn't fuck up and stall and got the shit out of there with Joanne telling me what her breath smelled like. A hero moment! Please some one post a close encounter where that big ass gun or bear spray saved your ass or your death, yet to hear of a badly scratched up dude except for their fantasy or Donald Trump version of the world. Sorry, I will just continue to carry my white ass nexus card/trusted traveler to travel across North America.
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    Shit, forgot to admit that I did carry a 44 mag lever action in my Citabria everywhere I flew because if I ended up going down, I actually could be in real bear country and perhaps vulnerable with injuries and so would need a line of defence.
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    Coming down the hill on the main part of the Top of the World heading to spend another holiday with Susan in Chicken, right where the Bruin Creek cut off joins the main road, how fitting, there is a dumb ass tourist in a van pulled over, a grizzly grousing in the ditch to the left, gear down and gawking and the shit comes charging out of the ditch after ME, not the dumb ass tourists!, have I told anyone how much I love throttle response on a motorcycle and the advantage of having panty like breathing underwear. And I usually take the Bruin Creek cut off just to get the opportunity to have a bear time together! Nobody takes that road! Another gem in the wilderness but shit you could die, do not camp there and if you are afraid of dying, give your shit up!
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  12. Tom S

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    A few years ago in Eagle River a bear came charging out of the woods & knocked down a woman riding with, I think her daughter, on the back. Cruiser bike I believe. :muutt
    Sounded like bear hit bike instead of the usual bike hits bear.
    Bear didn’t eat nobody though. Probably thought it would be tough chewing after hitting metal instead of flesh.
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  13. Beezer

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    in recent years theres been a couple guys that hit bears in the road if that counts. I came close twice last year.

    whatever got up the bear's ass this year I don't know because they are everywhere. the 2 recent killings are well discussed, but there is at least 3 maulings, not to mention a couple days ago one went through a window into some kid's bedroom. and btw... one guys life saved when his buddy used bear spray last week.

    and no, brown/grizzly are not in any danger here.... we have them by the buttload. if it were up to me, I would send you as many as you want, and prolly a couple spares.

    I'm 66, AK all my life, when I was a kid we never saw them.... saw sign, never saw them unless by surprise. they knew better than to hang around when the humans were out. even on the Kenai, in the 60's... they hear or see you coming, they gone. thats because the Alaskans my parent's age shot them, and the bears knew that. they are not stupid. now I see the buggers loafing on the side of the road... they don't give 2 shits. I've had 5 bear encounters this year (one in Canada). if you are in Anchorage go up Arctic valley road... can't throw a rock without hittin one of the fuckers in the head
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    ....So you quote me, go on to say "Not saying it's you" then continue with insinuation of the stereo-typical gun totin dick head.......And finish up with a statement about hypocritical? .......Ha!......That's rich.......You don't know me, or my experience......40+ years Alaskan resident, 1,000's of hours on the the Dalton Hwy, workin, mushin, huntin, fishin, boatin, hikin, n campin.....So your post is pretty much a pant load of presumptuousness......
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  15. Effisland

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    Its the old bait n switch, quote a guy so he thinks the entire post is about him so he reads the whole thing and then throw in some insult at the end. Right...but no, sorry its not about you. I was thinking specifically of some totally unpredictable rednex Canuck I encountered who supplied me with the remaining quote about shooting bears in the face 'cause its so fun. I believed him since he drove a jacked up jeep with an AK-47 logo and sported full arm tatts, shaved head...and if you fit this description its just a coincidence ok?!
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    Watch this vid it will help you understand bears and avoidance.

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    Maybe some perspective is required;


    https://www.backpacker.com/news-and-events/ask-a-bear-how-many-bear-attacks-really-2

    I've been attacked by a bear once. Well...it attacked the tent I was in, and that was enough. After that experience I became very "bear aware", but I've never felt I needed to pack a weapon. Well...OK...the shotgun came in REAL handy that day, but as a general rule the odds of a bad encounter with a bear are very low.

    However, if you are worried about SHARK attacks, I can understand your fear of bears because they are responsible for 2x the number of attacks than Sharks.
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  18. The Dick

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    F--k the bears and sharks, lets get real, the most immediate threat is cancer and no guns or spray is going to protect you and anxiety about bears and sharks could prove to be a leading cause!
    The more you worry about imagined shit and the less time you just get out there kick some ass, my instinct is that you just might escape the biggest killer!
    See Yall in Nakusp for the BC Beemers Rally, hey its a real rally mother F---ers, not some dirt shit gathering like the D2D! Can't wait to experience how the real people do shit!
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  19. 4951tomm

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    Interesting.....On the face of it, those would seem to be comforting numbers, no mention of maulings tho......But to get full and fair judgement value of those numbers, you would also need to know how many potential attacks had been prevented by the use of firearms............Here's a little better break down from wikki on fatalities by bears with interesting details of each https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America So, from my point of view, those are just X amount of people, whose last wish was surely "Damn, sure wish I'd brought a gun".......Now I'm not fool enough to say that a run to the Arctic ocean can't be done without a gun......It surely can......But there is a limited amount of time before you WILL be considered "some idiot camping on the haul road without a gun".....There are a few unique laws for hunting in that part of the State that help to keep it wild......No shooting a firearm within five miles of the pipeline, bows are OK, last I checked there were no motorized vehicles allowed to harvest any meat, motorized boats are OK. When they laid out the road and regs pre pipeline, they did have an eye for protecting wildlife, and the Indians and Eskimos way of life........The laws have evolved over time as technology has advanced. For awhile in the seventies it WAS legal to chase down 5 caribou via snomobile.....Fun, but obviously, that couldn't go on......My point is, that on the haul road, when you step a ways off the road, you are basically stepping into the stone age.......If some want to step into it with spray or bells.....fine......I myself personally, am partial to being at the TOP of the food chain with my firearm in a proven world class fishing and bear hunting area.....Mr ToothDocJay, I do want you to know that I respect your's and others own personal choice.......
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    In the video above..the question on firearms is answered. Only 75% of the time are guns effective, so how lucky do you feel? I personally don't want to be the in the 25% category. Bear spray is a 100% effective deterrent with no record of deaths. The data doesn't support the effectiveness of using guns.
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