Camping without a tent?

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by Biddles, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. Mayomoto

    Mayomoto Ultralurker perman00b

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2015
    Oddometer:
    248
    Location:
    Stephenville, TX
    Spent 10 days out recently, camping every night. Lowest elevation was around 6,000', highest 12,000. Temps at night from 50's to 20's. Tarp and Hennessy hammock with fly, thermarest, down quilts. Froze my MFN ass off. Never got wet, but did get snowed on when the condensation on the underside of the fly froze and i bumped into it in the middle of the night. The three nights I spent, courtesy of my destination host, in a sierra designs tent with big agnes bag and pad felt like nights at the Hilton compared to that fucking hammock. Life is too short to sleep shitty.
    #21
    DanmarkNet, kojack06, Boxa and 4 others like this.
  2. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

    Joined:
    May 28, 2012
    Oddometer:
    989
    Location:
    Wet side of WA.
    Up here in the Pacific Northwet fly, ground sheet, tent bottom stays dry. First thing up and last thing down are the tarps. Tarps plural.
    We tarp over everything. Sometimes the entire camp spot.
    #22
  3. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Oddometer:
    19,497
    Location:
    Western Sierras
    I agree. I got a simple dome tent for $39, and have used it on the bike, backpacking into the wilderness, etc. My only complaint is that it is 6'x6', so my head and feet both touch the edges of the tent. I am looking for a similar tent in 5'x7'.

    On the bike, I roll the tent around my sleeping bag and tent poles in a duffel bag I tie to the back seat. All my camping gear in one duffel about 2.5 feet long and 10 inches in diameter. I shortened some ratchet straps so I can secure it quickly very well.
    #23
  4. lowbrow

    lowbrow Adventurer

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2016
    Oddometer:
    38
    Location:
    Southern Sierra Nevada
    I prefer to sleep under the stars. I use a space blanket, Thermarest and a 20 degree bag with a liner all summer long. Throw a bivy sack over me for light rain/cold. If it's really hot I'll sleep with just the liner and throw the bivy over me in the middle of the night when it cools down. Has worked great for over 70 days last summer with the exception of a pin hole in the Thermarest I had to patch.
    #24
  5. J.Tours

    J.Tours Adventurer

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Oddometer:
    13
    Location:
    Colorado
    Representation of me camping on a multi day ride.

    Attached Files:

    #25
  6. BiGR Rich

    BiGR Rich Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Oddometer:
    635
    I know this is a little late, but I vote for the largest tarp you can afford/ carry. I have and old man winter tarp, and it basically replaces all my tents tarps.
    #26
    Eatmore Mudd likes this.
  7. ZATO1414

    ZATO1414 Still Above Ground!

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Oddometer:
    3
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    This roll-up goes a long way... sleeping blanket, pup tent, ground cushion/tarp (repels water) and easy to pack.

    Items that roll-up or fit in bags, strap onto the top of hard case side bags.

    Check this out at http://www.nrastore.com/nra-tactical-all-weather-blanket-2, more pics available and the price is right.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    #27
  8. ibgary

    ibgary Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,037
    Location:
    Colorado
    One word, "underquilt".[​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-T713 using Tapatalk
    #28
    Mayomoto likes this.
  9. nk14zp

    nk14zp Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2010
    Oddometer:
    705
    Location:
    Maine
    I'm real interested in these type of tarp setups.
    #29
  10. 2old2Bbold

    2old2Bbold was 2bold2getold

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2011
    Oddometer:
    3,399
    Location:
    Arlington, Texas
    #30
    Eatmore Mudd, Squily and nk14zp like this.
  11. Mayomoto

    Mayomoto Ultralurker perman00b

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2015
    Oddometer:
    248
    Location:
    Stephenville, TX
    Yeah that looks like the ticket. I had two down quilts with me, one for under and one on top, but spent more time wrestling with them than sleeping. I like the idea of the hammock, just need to mess around with it more I guess. I gotta say the build quality of the Hennessy is very good, and its easy to get in and out of. Im not gonna give up on it yet, ill check those underquilts out. Thanks for the tip.
    #31
  12. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,968
    Location:
    CA dez (it's a dry heat)/West Yellowstone,MT
    Bivy sacks - I used one almost exclusively for years until I became old, fat and soft. Works in a pinch in shitty weather but not really great for more than 1 night in a row of bad weather as the inside gets wet from condensation. I also just used to sleep on a ground cloth quite a bit hopefully in good weather, no bugs, and not too much dew.
    #32
  13. ibgary

    ibgary Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,037
    Location:
    Colorado
    A great hammock resource is Hammock Forum. Look for Shug.
    Im to old to be crawling on my hands and knees any more. Getting in and out of the hammock is like getting in and out of a chair or a bed. But.
    There is a learning curve and switching from tent to hammock isn't cheap. Cost of a good hammock with bug net (i use the Danger Bird by War Bonnet), light wieght tarp (Cuban Fiber), top quilt, underquilt.
    It's also fun, to play with different suspension systems.
    And when the weather gets bad, i love hanging out under my tarp watching the rain. Ill even make my coffee, breakfast and dinner under that tarp. I hate being stuck in a tent when its raining. I spent the better part of 2 days and 3 nights in a tent at the bottom of Army Pass, in the Sierras.

    Sent from my SM-T713 using Tapatalk
    #33
    RJAMT and Mayomoto like this.
  14. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Oddometer:
    19,497
    Location:
    Western Sierras
    [​IMG]
    #34
  15. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2005
    Oddometer:
    15,706
    Location:
    Villa Maria Sanitarium, Claremont, CA. USA
    NO......my tent is MUCH smaller than the tarp I use as a foot print. Much lighter. It’s a mosquito net with poles! About the size as a liter bottle of water. Yes the fly is about another liter. It’s FAR less bulky than the tarp. I also carry a Noah’s Tarp....it’s way bulkier than my tent and a fucking pain to figure out how to hang it. The tent is free standing....even in a snow/rain storm. Anyone can do anything they want.........50 years now and I’ve tried everything. A Bivvy? I REALLY like the simplicity.....BUT...ever try to sleep in one with the rain hitting it? Hard to do unless you are dog tired. Next morning you are still dog tired.
    #35
  16. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2005
    Oddometer:
    15,706
    Location:
    Villa Maria Sanitarium, Claremont, CA. USA
    Same with a tent....it’s called a rain fly.
    #36
  17. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2005
    Oddometer:
    15,706
    Location:
    Villa Maria Sanitarium, Claremont, CA. USA
    My seat bag is 30” long and 12” by 12”.......makes a great back rest. Fits: tent/fly/tarp/chair/thermorest/pump/poles/hammer/pegs/footprint, silk pajamas.....everything I need for a GOOD nights sleep. Weighs around 20 pounds (the chair is heavy).
    #37
  18. mouthfulloflake

    mouthfulloflake Not afraid

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Oddometer:
    25,688
    Location:
    The Berkeley of Arkansas
    I just tore down my tent after three nights of camping
    The floor ( outside of fabric) is wet from condensation
    So now I have a second piece in addition to the rain fly to dry out
    At home

    Advantage hammock In the rain
    #38
  19. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2005
    Oddometer:
    15,706
    Location:
    Villa Maria Sanitarium, Claremont, CA. USA
    You win I’m out.
    #39
  20. mouthfulloflake

    mouthfulloflake Not afraid

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Oddometer:
    25,688
    Location:
    The Berkeley of Arkansas
    No need to be like that, I just happen to see that as a pretty big advantage to a hammock and tarp setup, you and all of your stuff EXCEPT the tarp stays dry.

    ride on, be safe, no worries
    #40
    ibgary likes this.