Can a Versys be as good as a KLR?

Discussion in 'Some Assembly Required' started by Greatphotos, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Greatphotos

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    Has anyone taken a Kawasaki 650 Versys and turned it on to a full Duel Sport Bike, more along the lines of the KLR? You can get all the add on’s, but what about the Rim’s is their such a thing as a spoke rim that would fit the bike.
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    ktmklx Been here awhile

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  3. tragerbon

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    Hey...that's a good idea :D.

    I would like to see a thread dedicated to just Ninja and Versys conversion pics.
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  4. jdrocks

    jdrocks Gravel Runner

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    why do you want spokes?
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  5. amk

    amk Been here awhile

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    19" or 21" front wheel for sure. New fork, new shock. Quite expensive.

    BTW, I have not came across of a thread with tuning Versys original fork yet. It is possible, but all I see is Versys riders polish their beloved machines.
    One more thing, riding position is too sporty, the pegs have to be moved up front, probably to where the pedals are now.
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    tragerbon Been here awhile

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  7. amk

    amk Been here awhile

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    Not much, hah?

    I mean the first one does have some tech info, but if guys talking about high and low speed damping in relation to the speed of motorcycle instead of the bump profile, what sort of credibility would they earn?

    Two other, no comments.

    The original question was related to adventure riding, which implies a certain amount of off roading, i.e. increasing the ground clearance, dialing in for better compliance, getting some plushness without bottoming and so on.
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  8. jdrocks

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    now ya got it right.
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  9. amk

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  10. jdrocks

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    Ok, stand corrected.

    i suppose it might be different if there were not so many examples of these modifications out there already, and if the builders hadn't been so generous in sharing what they did and exactly how they did it, complete with narrative, photos, and parts sourcing. now you rarely start from scratch, and can pick the direction you want to go from among a number of different alternatives. in the case of the ADV forum, you may have moto builders standing by as your de facto consultants as you build your own bike.

    besides being the best place on the face of the earth to live, used moto parts are dirt cheap in the USA, so these kinds of modifications are inexpensive. any required machine work is cheap too, although some of these builds require very little. if you have reasonable wrenching skills, you can easily do these builds, but if you're accustomed to taking your moto to the dealer for everything, these builds are not for you.

    "ruins of ninja"?...now you done gone and hurt ma feelin's.

    the objective in starting with that parts bike was too keep the cost down by selling unused parts. i expect the V649HP build to come in at between $4-600EUR turnkey. not too bad.
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  11. eakins

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    this is one of the most adv'd versys
    http://www.twistedthrottle.com/article/articleview/449/1/33/
    there are several ninja650 adv version out there and a dirtbike one or 2.
    jdrocks has been key on this front.

    adding a 19" 1000 vtsrom front wheel is a easier mod, if you want a level below
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276645&page=288

    then there are fender lifting options w/ various 17" front tires used (150-17" used out back)
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695232

    and finally there will be a tck-80 (already a pirelli mt60) in the proper stock size
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=752207

    so if you seek a gravel runner like you would on a klr then the answer is yes it can be and has been done.
    will be a go every where DS like a KLR? probably not.
    is the the KLR the best go everywhere bike? no it can be way to heavy at times.
    what is a go everywhere bike? the wr250r is darn close.
    all depends on what you call dual-sport. some call the 1200gs a dual-sport. :huh
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    people are doing triple clamp, forks & wheel swaps all the time dude.
    that's why this is called some assy required. why you hanging out here?
    it's like get all mad about what people post in jo momma.

    could it be possible some are (alot) more builder/modder/machinst advance than you and enjoy this stuff.

    you need easy bolt on products? :deal
    http://www.twistedthrottle.com/

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    I should be well under $3000 total investment for my dirt ninja depending on how much the stock ninja parts sell for. Even if I throw them in the garbage I will be around $3000. Picked up the entire front end from an inmate for under $400.
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    Thanks for the referral over from the main versys thread.
    BTW, do you own a Versys? I see you post a lot but never could tell if you got one or not. Do you own a WRR?
    And I've asked before but never got a reply...- how are you affiliated with Butler Maps? (EDIT: nevermind, found the link in your sig) And why do you live in Mexico? Just curious. :D

    For the OP, first post is versys vs klr??? Egads. Simply, the versys is a neat little bike. The KLR is an outdated, bloated, underpowered, POS. It is hard to imagine anyone with even a modicum of riding experience would choose a KLR. And it's hard to believe they still sell them new.

    Neither make a decent dualsport. There are much better bikes to start from.

    No bike is perfect for all duties. Any can be made better for a given application.

    I wanted a dualsport too, so I bought one. Now I have a road bike and a dualsport bike.

    BTW, have you even read the entire versys thread? Browsed the owner's forum? Probably a good place to start.

    EDIT: Before you can own a dualsport you have to learn how to spell it! LOL.
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  15. amk

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    eakins you are definitely a plug in every leaking ass, you always has to tell something useless or meaningless, and I just wonder are you paid for that? I mean all advrider is full of your stuff, are you doing anything else beside punching your poor keyboard 24x7? BTW, how often do you have to change them due to wear, by weekly?

    Anyway, if you do not acquainted with somebody personally, it is a bad taste to make personal directional suggestions, i.e. where to go or where to hung on.
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  16. jdrocks

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    i can agree with that, i thought your questions were legitimate.



    eakins can't be right all the time, after all, everyone knows my wanged together cop motor powered custom suspended V649HP rat bike will run away and hide from that Twisted Throttle moto.
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    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Fixed it.
    ROFLMAO Really did make me laugh. :lol3:lol3:clap:clap
    Maybe he's just trying to drive up his post count. :deal
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  18. rrittner

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    I've been thinking about getting a used Versys and adding a skid plate and doing the 19" wheel conversion, or maybe saving up for a set of RAD versys wheels. But I'm wondering about extending the exhaust pipe and bringing it up and using the passenger peg as a mount kinda at 45 degrees?

    The reason for all this is to make cheaper ADV bike that can handle highway better that my XRL. I like the bike but on the highway the bike sucks. I'm also starting to do larger rides and multi day trips. The XRL is very reliable but I'm planning trips that are linked by highway.

    Yes there are better bike for this but from what I've read the Versys is very reliable and cheap to run. Also if - no when !! I crash it I wouldn't crap my pants like if owned a BMW ,KTM or other expensive bike.
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  19. jdrocks

    jdrocks Gravel Runner

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    you can move the exhaust if you want to, but it's not necessary for Colorado gravel roads, runs fine as is. you don't need spokes either. the 19" front should be at the top of the list. mount the R1 shock while you're at it.
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  20. eakins

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    no, i'm paid just to personally annoy you.

    working on my 2nd set of keyboards this week, between enjoying the sunny and clear 80 degree weather, surfing, snorkeling, exploring and riding my motorcycle every day this winter. :evil

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