Can I glaze over tile countertops????

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  1. rufus

    rufus We're burning daylight...

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    I have seen several "glazed" countertops that were peeling off within 2 or 3 years. It looks to me like nothing but epoxy paint.


    If you want good and economical look for formica.
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  2. kiwi_outdoors

    kiwi_outdoors Been here awhile

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    use granite, its not too $$ if you find a good installer
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  3. rufus

    rufus We're burning daylight...

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    I agree. If you are going to stay in the house then granite is the way to go. Prices have come way down on granite slabs. The shop where I work had 4 or 5 formica installers 25 years ago. We have none now. Granite has nearly completely taken over.

    We used to do a few tile countertops per month. I have done 1 in the last five years. Tiles countertops are so labor intensive that you can usually get granite for about the same cost.


    The 1 tile countertop i mentioned was for a half crazy old man who tore off 6 month old granite slabs to put in some tile that he saw on a home improvement show on TV. Our salesman tried and tried to talk him out of it.
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  4. yukonjon

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    Well I appreciate all this advice guys. Leaves me a lot to consider and a much better starting point on pricing everything out. After reading everything though, my only question is "who wants to come do this?" Maybe I'm starting to reconsider this being a DIY project and just need to stop being a cheap-ass and pay someone more than I want to. Either way I'm looking into it and maybe ill practice a small table before considering doing my countertops.
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  5. troidus

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    When I redid my tub enclosure, I had two tiles (of about 600) pop off. One didn't have much surface area for grip and I disturbed it before it set, and the other I think I let the mix get old before I got to that tile. I ended up using my dremel and a diamond tile cutting bit to grind off the thinset and get back to clean duroc. Tedious, but it worked.
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    As the result of my wife owning a tile store, I have installed too much for my own good. I agree with most of what has been said. If going the porcelain route, use a through-body tile, that way chips will not be noticeable (well not TOO noticeable). Use whatever backing you are comfortable with, or whatever cost allows for. Seal the tile. It will add extra protection and make it easier to clean. Bull nose tile is expensive, buy a cheap tile saw, or rent, and cut your own. Hand “bull nose” the edges with an angle grinder. This is easier than you would think.

    Use 1/8” spacers or, my favorite, credit card spacing. Smaller grout lines means less headache over the life of the counter top and lessens the money spent on grout. On counter tops, I prefer non sanded epoxy grout – but would not recommend for lines over 1/8”.


    You may also visit your local stone supplier and see what they have available in granite tile. Natural stone is easier to work with, especially cutting and grinding. This is usually fairly inexpensive as well. The problem with cheap porcelain and ceramic is that there are only so many patterns in a box. Many times, the pattern is the same on all tiles. I never paid any attention to this until my wife explained it. Now, it drives me crazy. There are so many tile shops out there; good tile can be purchased cheaper than the big box store crap. This just takes time. Specialty shops often have small lots that they will let go at a song and a dance. Although my wife sells only to contractors, she will often put small lots of tile on Craigslist, especially if it is a discontinued item or a specialty item brought in for a project. Tile has a huge mark-up, deal and shop around.


    Seal the counter top once a year. Don’t let all that hard work go to waste. Do not rush. Prep the work surface, tape the seams, and screw heads (consider roofing nails, less work to cover and smooth out). Let the tile set before grouting.

    Good luck!

    And if all else fails, go to the stone yard and look through the remnant pile for a slab that may suite your space. Just remember that it is the cost of prepping and installation that costs the most!
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  7. dhally

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    My advice: formica with tile backsplash. You can look at the tile backsplash and enjoy the low cost and low maintenance of Formica on the work surface. Consider hiring it done unless you really like to spend a lot of time messing around, and don't need perfect results. The pros are so fast it is scary.
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  8. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    Formica is great stuff, and cheap. It can look good too.

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    I used a granit look formica on my old house. It looked great!

    Ignore the red paint. I changed that as soon as I dumped my then girlfriend!:lol3

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  9. yukonjon

    yukonjon Been here awhile

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    When you guys say Formica which product are you using. I see they have 5 different things from laminate to solid.
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  10. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    In my case, it was the laminate that came preapplied to a wood/partical board surface.

    Jim :brow
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  11. rufus

    rufus We're burning daylight...

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    Formica is actually a brand name. But the word formica is commonly used to describe plastic laminate. There is a solid core laminate. The color goes all the way through so scratches aren't as noticeable. There are different brands and different opinions on what is best. I don't know one from another.
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  12. kevinyount958

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    Yes. You can do it. But careful. It is not easy.
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