Can I just throw a set of the TUbliss deals in my scorps and go anaturale?

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by 5 speed, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. 5 speed

    5 speed Been here awhile

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    I figure it couldnt be that easy; just pull out the tube and rimlock, plop one of these in there and everything is coming up roses ?:ear
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  2. Nowwhat

    Nowwhat I'll Go Second...

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    nope....
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  3. SpeedyR

    SpeedyR SE in the SE

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    Assuming you have an adventure the rear definitely won't work. It's a 4.25" rim and the tubliss only works on standard off road rims 2.15 and maybe 2.5?

    Front you may be in luck. Check your rim width but I think it's 1.6 which is ok.

    But why not give them a call and see what they recommend. They had been saying they were going to make a setup for the big twins but not sure if it was for the SE or the ADV and I haven't heard anything in a while.
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  4. Lc8grrr

    Lc8grrr Vtwin madness

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    Both rims are too wide for Tubliss on SE and ADV.
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  5. 5 speed

    5 speed Been here awhile

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    Shame isnt it?
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  6. unaweep

    unaweep Uses lotsa band-aids

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    Gosh, I haven't had any luck with Tubliss on a thumper, except slow speed, technical single track. Just can't keep air in it. I imagine it would be worse on the SE even if it did fit, due to the added weight.:deal
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  7. 5 speed

    5 speed Been here awhile

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    I guess i should buy a set of tubless rims. I wish I could get a set of Super Tenere rims in 21/18 sizes. Its simple setup and definitely tubeless. Just like the idea of getting a flat and putting a plug in it and air up. Tires run cooler.
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  8. JTXT

    JTXT Adventurer

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    I have been running the Outex tubeless kits for 15,000 miles on my 19/17" wheels without any problems. You can find the Outex kits on Ebay.
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  9. Unkgd

    Unkgd Been here awhile

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    As I just converted my rear wheel on my 500EXC to Tubliss - you are making me worry:huh
    How low of a pressure did you start off with on the thumper?
    TIA
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  10. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

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    I've been using my sealed wheels for a similar amount of miles, with no problems except for a few leaks in the first couple weeks. If I was to do it again, I'd probably use Outex or something similar using 3m extreme sealing tape. As long as I'm going to keep the psi above 20 in these tires, I don't see the advantage of the Tubliss. With low pressures there's an obvious advantage.
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  11. unaweep

    unaweep Uses lotsa band-aids

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    Ya know, I'm not sure. Sorry. It's been a couple years since I last used it. I was trying to be reasonable to coach as much use as I could out of it. But, I was using it on the front tire. One of the advantages is that even when "flat" you can still ride it out of wherever you are.

    I didn't notice where you're located, but it seems to not do well in the desert. Hope you're spared too much trouble! :thumb
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  12. 5 speed

    5 speed Been here awhile

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    so you seal the wheels and put these tubliss systems in? JTXT if you have been using these on a 17 I imagine the rim is pretty wide? Was just looking for a way to avoid dealing with tubes.
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  13. JTXT

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    I believe the front 17" wheel is 3.5" wide. If you can't get the Outex for the front wheel you could always go with the TUbliss system on your front wheel and the Outex kit on your rear wheel.
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  14. 5 speed

    5 speed Been here awhile

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    Outex do make a kit for the 990 adv.- front 2.15 rear 4.25 rims 149.00.

    First I need to hear from other users. I am running stock scorps. dont want to use tubeless tires. Anyone use a tubed 21" with low pressure offroad with the Outex kit? how long have anyone been running these? Ready for prime time or not?

    my thought is go tubeless; have a road trip, pickup a nail, plug it and go. if the the hole is too big you could always put in a tube. Much rather plug and go.
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  15. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    my two cents:::
    IMHO:

    1,,,Nothing beats a genuine tubeless rim:deal

    2,,,next best things are a variety of sealing techniques that convert the proper sized rim WITH A SAFETY BEAD to accept tubeless tires after sealing be it,the OUTEX method,,,or the variety of sealing techniques discussed and outlined by yours truly and others for the past ten years....done properly ,,with patience and exactitude toward cleanliness and patience to allow the chemicals to properly cure.

    3,, the TUBLISS system is designed FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY,,tis in all of TUBLISS"S literature,,,so PLEASE honor their guidelines!!!!,,,,and the range of their use is 1.6 x21'' and 2.15'' x 18 or 19'' for the rears ..BASTA !!! end of story. FYI,,we have never experienced more problems with any sealing system than this one...YOU HAVE TO BE SOOO CONSCIENTIOUS AND CARE-FULL !!!,,,if not ,,,the slightest mis-step will bend/scratch/ruin the delicate sealing surfaces :deal

    those are my $.02 :wink:
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  16. SpeedyR

    SpeedyR SE in the SE

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    I've got a mousse in my front tire right now (SE) and it's fine if you don't want to deal with tubes. :) Haven't tried it yet in the rear yet.

    I have run tubliss on my 450 21" front and an 18" rear. no problems with either one. over time they both loose air but for weekend rides or stuff like that no issues. I just check the pressure before I go riding and make sure it's where I want it to be. My standard/UHD tubes in both my bikes usually need some adjustment as well so I don't notice anything different with the Tubliss. I run it around 6-8psi on a trials rear tire, and a standard front tire on my 450. I did start (at least on the rear) with a new rim and tire so that helps with the sealing. If you have a used tire, and beat up rim you will probably have more issues with sealing. :)
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  17. 5 speed

    5 speed Been here awhile

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    Woody, thanks for weighing in with your experiences. Can you get the super tenere type rims in 21 and 18 and would they work with the KTM lace pattern? What tubeless rims would you have that would lace up to the KTM 950adv hubs? I read some of your other posts on the subject so trying to educate myself. Would tires like the stock scorpions work on these types of rims? I dont need knobbies more like a 70/30 tire. I found the stock rear scorp does pretty good in the sand when its fairly new. Would like to run those. My current front rim set up was done by Rad and they ordered an Excel 21x2.15 to lace up to one of their hubs. I see the spoke nipple heads are very big and protrude quite a bit so I would be worried the Outex solution might not work.
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  18. Shuffler

    Shuffler Hommes Grande

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    Woody, I bought a set of Repsol-orange powdercoated superlaced Excel wheels from you last year ... the rear was your tubeless setup, the front is standard. Awesome wheels.

    I've been running the Tubliss system up front on my 950 and have put it through plenty of slab and gnar ... no problems other than the usual air loss over time. FWIW.
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  19. Big_John

    Big_John Ridin 4 the King

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    Or you can go with Woody's 1.6 front and do the Tubliss.....and have Woody seal the rear rim and go tubeless on a 3.5".

    That's my plan!!!!

    I already did the A60 in the front.


    Because changing the rear on the trail is a complete bitch!
    ......
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  20. MKJ

    MKJ Married w/ Children

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    If you installed the system correctly, you will have no issues. The statement that they don't work in the desert is complete BS. We use them in baja on 1,000 mile+ trips with zero issues. I would recommend going Tubliss on the front also as I find they are more suseptible to pinched flats.
    I would recommend using the system with a 6 ply tire such as the Bridgestone ED77 and ED78. If you get a puncture, you can install a plug and be on your way.
    I usually run 8 lbs. in the rear
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