Can KTM build a significantly lighter 700-800cc twin? Is there a market for it?

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by LukasM, Oct 28, 2012.

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Would you buy a 370 lbs wet, 80-90 HP, 700-800cc twin, priced between 690 and 990?

  1. Tomorrow, bring it on!

  2. Too small, prefer the exisiting 990 and upcoming 1190.

  3. Too big, prefer a single.

  4. Not interested in a KTM.

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  1. dmaxmike

    dmaxmike former quadtard.

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    maybe for you. why do they sell so many KLR's then?
  2. crofrog

    crofrog Long timer

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    Um, hmm let me think about it, is it because you can go to a dealership and get one for 5500 new, and they've got dealerships everywhere.

    Most people don't even know what a KTM is, let alone a husky. And most people are surprised to find out that BMW makes motorcycles...

    Are you feeling a bit defensive of your motorcycle being compared to a KLR?
  3. cyborg

    cyborg Potius Sero Quam Numquam

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    If KTM could only make their big single as smooth as the Terra version of the 650 Kymco/Rotax/Lorcin engine -- that would be a good long range engine for a lightweight Adventure bike. Slap it into a proper sporty frame & plastics, tune it for another 10hp, just ramblin'...

    Or take a Terra for $3K less than a 690, throw proper suspension and an aluminum swingarm on it...
  4. Afry

    Afry Why hike?

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    To get to the single track? Yes
  5. Afry

    Afry Why hike?

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    And you just spent the 3k savings and have an overweight bike with low budget parts. Have you looked at the small parts on one of these...screams China to me and I like Huskys.
  6. frog

    frog Long timer

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    Then buy a super enduro. :)
  7. Bubba Bauer

    Bubba Bauer Been here awhile

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    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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    xcflyn Long timer

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    Yikes- not very good protection on that radiator- add a pound to mine- no wind protection/deflection to speak of.... you know where this is going :D
  10. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    Yeah...and it's 400lbs dry, not to mention that the sump and exhaust is like 2 inches below the axle line.....by the time you add some engine protection, a luggage system and a decent gas tank, you have an underpowered 1190.
    :puke1
  11. Afry

    Afry Why hike?

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    I have one... wait, you mean buy another one? :eek1
  12. dmaxmike

    dmaxmike former quadtard.

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    The underlined is the reason that KTM can’t make what you all pine for. They don’t have the resources. Because they don't sell enough bikes or have enough dealers or enough brand recognition outside the fringes that they cater to. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    And I don’t have a Husky or a KLR? I have the spindly sprung old version of the husky motor in my Dakar, you know the ones where the front wheels just magically fly off and throw you into a guardrail. <o:p></o:p>
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    I wish KTM, or husky, or BWM would build something like a more refined 690 with good high quality parts and minimal wind coverage that could be jumped and hammered off-road but it would cost so much and so few would buy it that it would bankrupt them. <o:p></o:p>
  13. dmaxmike

    dmaxmike former quadtard.

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    And I also wish they would make bikes that could ridden by people under 6’6’’ <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
  14. Josetb

    Josetb ITs never to Far.

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    In my dreams I will reserve it before it comes out.

    In my mind I it will be a problem owning a 990Adv.

    In my pocket will be a hole.

    And in my heart an ilusion.


    Only one question: How can I explain it to my wife?
  15. crofrog

    crofrog Long timer

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    Oh so you're saying you wish you had a KLR:rofl

    I'm 5'10" and ride 4 different KTM's made you should just learn to cope.
  16. Idle

    Idle Been here awhile

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    Hard to believe but there's a 60° v-Twin motorcycle that claims 324 pounds wet. Lots of hand laid composites and state of the art engineering concepts.
















































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    So what if it's made of cheese, it's a lightweight v-twin innitt?

    Just stating that it isn't asking too much to build a bike like Lukas has outlined. It should be easily achievable.

    The bike is easy, the engine, notsomuch..

    Aprilia, BRP, Rotax, KTM, and a few others have been working on it for a while.
  17. dmaxmike

    dmaxmike former quadtard.

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    Everyone says that and I understand where there coming from but when you go through stop and go traffic on the way to work every day it gets old trying to get A foot down. With the low seat on my Dakar I can get the balls of both feet down. I have inches of air between my feet and the ground on my buddies 690 and my other buddy’s 500xc-w. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
  18. wpbarlow

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    Here you go-- claimed 385 pounds dry and 95hp.

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    Might need a couple of "additions" :lol3
  19. Jettn Jim

    Jettn Jim This is Liv'n!!!

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  20. jerdog53

    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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    Oh wait! Here it comes!
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    The Nay Sayers!! The fuel tank is too small! It has no wind protection! It’s only got a 19” front tire! The seat height is too tall and the seat is to hard or too wide to too narrow! There are no provisions for bags! There’s no sump guard! The Exhaust pipe it routed too low! It’s got high Exhaust! It doesn’t have low Exhaust! Its Air Cooled! It only makes 95 HP! It weighs 385 pounds! It’s not water cooled! No traction control, no ABS!
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