Can KTM build a significantly lighter 700-800cc twin? Is there a market for it?

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by LukasM, Oct 28, 2012.

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Would you buy a 370 lbs wet, 80-90 HP, 700-800cc twin, priced between 690 and 990?

  1. Tomorrow, bring it on!

  2. Too small, prefer the exisiting 990 and upcoming 1190.

  3. Too big, prefer a single.

  4. Not interested in a KTM.

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  1. Bigem

    Bigem Long timer

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    If KTM built an 800cc v-twin Adventure that was 20-25kg lighter than the 1190R I would have bought it. would probably still buy it.

    Coming from an F800GS I reckon its the perfect capacity for me, but as KTM dont build an 800cc version of the 1190R, I bought an 1190R.

    The 690R is a good jigger but way over-priced for what you get,and it costs a fortune to give it any real range!
  2. Bigem

    Bigem Long timer

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    If they where $16000 in Australia, KTM would not be able to keep up with demand!

    An 1190R Adventure is 23K on the road here and there is still a waiting list in some area's!!
  3. Bubba Bauer

    Bubba Bauer Been here awhile

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    Now with Yamaha comming out with the mt7 and mt9 both of them very light for the price they`ll sell and the engines are very good candidates for an "adventure bike", Honda with the budget cb500, nc700, suzuki and kawasaki already having a bike in that displacement size, hopefully its only a short while till KTM comes out with something similar. It seems that manufacturers realized that people need a very light and enjoyable bike and not a techsheet winner.

    http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/produ...g?width=910&quality=75|ymeGallery1|||nulltext this with just 10 kg-s lighter and with a bit more travel can`t be too hard... :deal
  4. twobarb

    twobarb Adventurer

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    They should look back into the Highland engine project, nothing beats a pair of Husaberg jugs mated on a MX sized case. My neighbor has thee of the original prototypes and they have all the power of my 950 at half the weight.
    http://www.ushighland.com/engines/
    This motor is a bit different than the original that was being developed by Husa
  5. john_aero

    john_aero Long timer

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    ktm 990 with few upgrades/fixes that they all seem suffer and its perfect.

    not sure what spooing 990 as its near on perfect

    i know want try match rest big adv bike world but why bother as most pop bikes will be mid class 700-900cc

    why else did bmw bring 650 single back it was so hugely popular
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    Mesjr Been here awhile

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    +1
  7. motoracer51

    motoracer51 Been here awhile

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    I'd sell my Adventure and buy one.:evil
  8. ciedema

    ciedema мотоциклист

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  9. Hosszu Toll

    Hosszu Toll Been here awhile

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    I just read this interview on the official KTM blog:

    http://blog.ktm.com/looking-into-rearview-mirror-with-philipp-habsburg-head-of-ktm-rd/

    INTERVIEW OF THE MONTH: RE(AR)VIEW WITH PHILIPP HABSBURG, HEAD OF KTM R&D

    "There are still some ‘missing links’ that we want to fill up for next year."

    “The travel bike segment – where we have the ADVENTURE – and the naked bike – where we have the DUKES – are the growing segments for the future.”
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    brianpc Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the links, very cool.

    As a former 690 enduro owner and possible future 1190 adv R owner, or possible future Tiger 800 XC owner, I think a 790 KTM twin competing directly with the Tiger / F800GS, with dirt creds, touring comfort, and comparable maint schedule with those two bikes would be perfect. Add good panniers and 990-ish fairing/comfy seat and I'd be sold. But, if I have to step up to the 1190 adv r, I guess I could..
  12. mcguyver

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    I have seen this bike in the flesh and it is an absolute work of art.
    Superbly made. The only issue for me is the cost. At 24k (aust) I just can't afford it, but if KTM could produce a version for 16-18 k, I will be the first to order one.

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    Oh and for the life of me I can't understand everyone wanting a twin.
  13. johnno950

    johnno950 Long timer

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    Was told these kits/bikes will be in the usa mid 2014 for people to look at in the flesh and throw a leg over.
  14. mcguyver

    mcguyver Long timer

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    By who?
  15. johnno950

    johnno950 Long timer

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    Person who built the kits
  16. mcguyver

    mcguyver Long timer

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    I'm assuming you mean the Dalby Moto kits which are based on the 690 single.
    Yes that have already sold bikes into the USA and also Europe.


    The quote you posted alluded to a 700 KTM twin????
  17. johnno950

    johnno950 Long timer

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    Sorry my mistake,was talking about the d/moto single slug 700adv,good to see some overseas sales for the kits