Can one be both ATGATT and Pirate?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by blk-betty, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

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    If the guy is telling others to be ATGATT, yet doesn't wear it himself, he's a hypocryte. If he just wants to match his clothes to his bike, maybe he's a poser, but he can do whatever he wants.

    When I go to the hot rod show in a muscle car, I often wear hot rod t-shirts. Whenever I get on the bike, I wear everything I've got, so that's ATGATT for me even though the only riding pants I have are flannel lined Carhartt jeans.:eek1
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  2. Mountain Cruiser

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    I think the Aerostich Transit Suit would fit the billet for both scenarios.

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  3. LittleRedToyota

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    a back protector will.

    knee armor will mitigate breaking your knee cap (which certainly can be a life altering injury).

    shattered ankles, broken feet, torn achilles, torn plantar, etc. can be also definitely be life altering injuries. shattered elbows...

    i have a nagging shoulder injury that has affected my quality of life at times for over 10 years. i got it by having my shoulder driven into the ground without any kind of padding/armor on it (while playing sports). i've driven my shoulders into the ground wearing armor while dirt biking many times. never had any injury as a result.

    body armor definitely does help mitigate life altering impact injuries...certainly not all of them, but definitely some.

    having said that...i think people should wear whatever the hell they want to wear.
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  4. stubmw

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    Or Harleys own FXRG jacket and pants.......excellant, if not the best of gear. :deal
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  5. lemieuxmc

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    I really don't care what kind of gear he wears, it's his ass on the line.

    The thing that bugs me is that he's on the track on a 1000cc rocket bike with "traction control working hard".

    If your traction control is working hard, your throttle control needs to work a lot harder. Squid Crutch? Maybe a few seasons on a 250 Ninja would be a smarter use of track days than riding an S1000rr.
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  6. ricochetrider

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    in my mind a "poser" (in regards to motorcycling)
    is someone who has a stupidly expensive bike and 3000.00 worth of gear- all to ride only a couple miles a year, say- to the bar and back, or only on sunny Sundays.

    a dude who owns at least two different types of bikes- one of which HE BUILT FROM SCRATCH, rides dirt and street, AND makes his living designing motorcycles for a major international motorcycle company is more a motorcyclist than many of the ADVrider inmates (i would venture to say) and NOT, repeat- DEFINITELY NOT a poser. he is, in fact actually LIVING it. living the dream- designing, riding AND BUILDING motorcycles.

    one of the dictionary's [short] definitions of "poser" is:
    (noun) "a person who habitually pretends to be something he is not".

    this dude, of all people- does NOT fit that description. in fact many of us would LOVE to be in his place, or at least be involved so heavily in the activity which is our greatest passion- motorcycling.
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  7. '05Train

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    Fact of the matter is that there are some people who will never be happy unless everyone is wearing what they're wearing. The "he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke the same cigarettes as me" syndrome. I don't have time for those people, as they are (by and large) miserable bastards who have a vested interest in making everyone as miserable as them.

    I have a very custom '05 Night Train (my namesake) and a brandy-new '11 R1200RT. Guess what? Sometimes I'll ride each of them with the same gear. Sometimes I won't. Sometimes I'll go out of my way to fuck with people and wear my leather Brando jacket on the BMW, and my Rallye 3 on the 'Train. My bikes, my gear, my ass, and my choice. I logged 30,000 miles on my bikes last year, think I'm a poseur? Think again.

    That's one thing that the pirates and the ATGATT crowd can agree on; the need to bitch when they see another rider out of uniform.


    One other thing too. Having just lived through a 35mph crash, I can say categorically that the armor in my FXRG jacket saved my back, shoulders, and elbows. The lack of armor in my pants is the reason my kneecap shattered.
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  8. Roam

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    Excellent post.
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    :lol3
    Nice.
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  10. bones_708

    bones_708 Been here awhile

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    No
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  11. JimVonBaden

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    Again, and either I am not making myself clear, or people refuse to read what I write, if he swaps gear for no gear, simply because he swaps bikes, he is posing. It has nothing to do with his riding skill, miles or dedication to riding. It is affecting a look to match the bike, and not for value of the gear. In other words, changing shoes to match his purse, so to speak.:deal

    The question I was answering, from the original post:

    Jim :brow
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  12. windmill

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    This is certainly a bizarre thread,

    Everybody worrying about what others are wearing, just like a bunch of 13 year old girls.
    I know what gear works for me and would wear the same thing what ever I ride, I don't care if it looks "right", I ride because I like it, not as a fashion or lifestyle statement.
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  13. JimVonBaden

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    YOU, are NOT a poser based on what you just wrote.:deal

    This is the thing, based on the posed question, if you wear what you wear, no matter what you ride, you are not posing. If you swap gear like making the panties match the bra, you are posing.

    This does NOT necessarily make you a poser in the traditional sense, but you are most definitely using your gear to affect a look commensurate with the bike you are riding!

    Do I care? Not in the least. But the question was asked, and I assumed it was an honest question, so I answered it.

    Jim :brow
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    So if you always wear a hi-viz vest with the assless chaps no matter which bike you are riding... you aren't a poser? :huh
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  15. JimVonBaden

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    As it relates to the original question, you are not posing. Are you a poser? :dunno

    Jim :brow
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  16. lemieuxmc

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    Are you a turtle? :wink:
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  17. JimVonBaden

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    That went right over my head! :shog

    :lol3

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  18. I'd say you're probably in the military :lol3
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  19. KWayne406

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    I wear what I want when I want, some what atgatt but not neccesserily so. I guess I'm lucky to have a bike for whatever mood I'm in but not allways dressed for the bike I'm on. I might show up to the Harley shop on a metric or the metric shop on a harley. To me what matters is that you ride, not what or how you are dressed. With friends in the business it has gotten me a few free tshirts. [ man you can't wear that here] Propper footwear helmet and jacket are allways essential and at least long pants. Tried wearing shorts and a tshirt once,never again. If someone wants to dress as a pirate good for him. remember we are motorcyclists and this isn't a fashion show, show a little tollerance and you might make a friend. Rubber side down and God bless. So the answer is YES!
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  20. kpt4321

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    I guess MotoGP guys are squids, using a "squid crutch".
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