Can this newbie be saved...

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Trophy Mike, Sep 27, 2009.

  1. STROMVADER

    STROMVADER Long timer

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    I think riding dirt bikes prior to street riding makes a big difference. you eat shit a lot when learning in the dirt. It is more forgiving. I rode dirt for 11 years prior to riding street.....LEGALLY.:lol3 I guess wide open rips on pavement w/ a YZ 250 isn't considered road practice. It did sharpen my evasion skills!:rilla
  2. Kommando

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    A lot of those people don't even have a license. Besides...The M license test, in this state at least, is a joke. You don't even have to do an emergency swerve for the test anymore. Most people still don't even take the test on even a mid-class standard or anything. There are places around that rent 250 Nighthawks just for people to take their test on. Then they go out and ride their 1000cc-plus behemoth sportbike or cruiser, without any other practice, tests, or training.

    Starting out from a stop, or parking, is difficult? You need more practice. I do it on bikes and in stickshift vehicles that aren't mine all the time. I spend a minute or so getting used to the clutch friction zone and other controls AWAY from a public road, and then I'm good to go. Starting from a complete stop, uphill, while turning, is almost a no-brainer...and I'm no professional wunderkind or anything.
  3. haithabu

    haithabu Been here awhile

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    All of Harleyriders' posts were uploaded to her blog within a few minutes of each other on June 23. So it is basically a historical record of her learning experience up to that time.
  4. roadhamr

    roadhamr Been here awhile

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    holy cow dude! let it go! trophy never refered to the woman as fat that was dakez. he was the one who constantly brought up that she is a large woman. yeah you are right about reactions but mike is saying lets not prey on her because of her physical deficiencies but instead let us discuss how so many new riders are buying these large heavy poor handling touring bikes for their first bikes.
    you keep making statements in espanish and so he jokingly said he would have you deported. i thought it was funny.:D dont be a hockey puck just enjoy!:norton

    i love costa rica and wish i was there again now!
  5. Trophy Mike

    Trophy Mike w/extreme prejudice

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    Not quite. Have added dates to the Harley Ryder posts here which are only the tip of the 'berg. 61 posts and counting from April 15 - Nov 24 with no apparent secession in sight. View its entirety on http://www.cmcforum.ca. You may have to join the club first. Just don't dare have an opinion.
  6. roadhamr

    roadhamr Been here awhile

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    also the cmc guys are clowns for banning you mike. that kind of protective circle is ridiculous. if you dont want honest comments dont post on a forum.
    hey i have had to wade through piles of crap in my posts to find anything of any use. why shouldnt she?
  7. haithabu

    haithabu Been here awhile

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    Cool. Thanks Mike.
  8. hitchface

    hitchface I don't fit in.

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    I'd say that is a pretty big deal, given the amount of miles on that bike now. The whole clutch system is pretty critical to bike control, especially when the bike is heavy...and especially when going slow. That she hasn't slammed into a car or eaten the pavement yet is nothing short of a miracle.
  9. Pedro Navaja

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    So if you speak French in Canada do you get deported to France or Quebec? :wink:

    I read the thread, and know who brought up what. However, DAKEZ or me bringing up large, fat, etc. is very minor compared to talking about a chick in her absence which is far above any levels of asshole-dom I have ever achieved. I am happy to stay out of the thread, so just don't bring me back into it. Comprenez vous? :D
  10. DAKEZ

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    I never said she was fat. That would be an inflaming and derogatory statement. :1drink

    She is a big girl and needs a big bike. :D
  11. Pedro Navaja

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    That's right it was me who said she was fat.

    Now for you other FFs who are coming to her oh so righteous defense: Look at the picture. Is she not fat? I mean WTF?

    Like I told TM and the mod in the background. This is just a mental masturbation thread. Let's not dress it up as anything else and then cry out at the indignation and unfairness of it all when it is pointed that the chick is fat.

    You want dignity for the chick? Then lock the thread and quit talking shit about her since she's not here to tell y'all to stick your penis in your anus.
  12. roadhamr

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    nope you are right my mistake! i appoligize dakez for miss quoting you. i hope you will accept.
  13. roadhamr

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    wow you are so angry man!:huh i am just not sure why?:huh look the chick is fat. i saw the pic she is fat. i dont mind saying it at all.
    she has found something she likes to do and feels she has to share. she put herself out there. mike was banned from the original site for speaking up about the attrocity that she is learning to ride on that clumsy bike of hers being probably 5 foot 2 or 3.
    the sales man who sold her that will burn in hell for eternity.
    i dont know where mike offended you or set you off but i hope you realize it is just the interweb man. cant control it so it just isnt worth getting too upset about. and hey i know about getting upset man. i used to pop off on people all the time on forums online. it isnt worth it.
    i dont want dignity for her. i dont care about her at all. i dont know her. she lives about 45 mins from me though. but she is just a foil for the discussion that she should not be riding that bike as a beginner.
  14. Pedro Navaja

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    I give up. Any more comments to me y'all can do it via PM. Unsubrscribed :fyyff
  15. scfrank

    scfrank Joe the Rider.

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    Pedro - you spelled unsubscribed wrong.


    Someone needs to get her a pair of boots for Christmas.
    (See last picture)


    Are there MSF coursed in Canada?


    She really does need more training, but don't we all?
  16. DAKEZ

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    :lol3 RIDE RIDE RIDE.
  17. xcgates

    xcgates Whaaa?

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    I suppose. I haven't been focused enough to figure out how many miles she has, but I'd say by the time someone has about 1k miles on a car/bike they should be pretty comfy with controlling it.

    I have a friend who taught herself to drive stick about a year ago, and she is still somewhat unsure of herself with the clutch. So if someone doesn't get focused, proper attention, its easy for people to continue being uncomfortable.

    That reminds me, I keep meaning to get my friend to be more confident.
  18. roadhamr

    roadhamr Been here awhile

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    ARE YOU SERIOUS? i totally dont understand your hostility. i am guessing this is for the best though as you have a merit badge and some kind of other deal that makes you dangerous i think i dont really remember. no one is going after you pal and this is tantamount to having a hissy fit on the floor of the shopping center.
    i wish you well.
    :lol3 vios condios my amigo!:lol3
  19. dwoodward

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    Your base presumption is that riding isn't viewed as a distasteful but necessary component of the social scene she's decided to join. To be a "full member" of that group requires she own and know how to operate a motorcycle. It may be that she does so only to the minimum standard needed to become a member of her chosen social group.

    I might change the focus of the original question, from "Can this newbie be saved" to "Should this newbie be saved"... or in other words, should someone encourage them to continue riding and improve the skillset, or should someone be suggesting that she's better off taking public transportation.

    [edit to add last para]
  20. dwoodward

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    Comfy, maybe. Good at it? Not yet- a disproportionate number of crashes happen in the first 5k miles with a new vehicle.