canadian loop from VT/NH

Discussion in 'Northeast - Greater Flugistan and home of the carp' started by sierraoffroad, Jul 29, 2013.

  1. sierraoffroad

    sierraoffroad Long timer

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    I'm not sure if this is the place to post this question, but i was thinking of doing a day ride up through canada from vt and coming back down through NH roughly. I'm not sure what hours the borders are open i guess that would determine my route in and out. anyone here done that been there??

    thanks in advance
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  2. sierraoffroad

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    anybody???
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    <table class="wikitable"><tbody><tr><td colspan="7" style="text-align:center;">Quebec–Vermont

    </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Noyan</td> <td>Route 225</td> <td>Alburgh</td> <td>VT 225</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;41.69&#8243;N 73°17&#8242;47.54&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Clarenceville</td> <td>Chemin Beech Sud</td> <td>Alburg Springs</td> <td>Alburg Springs Road</td> <td>daytime service year round (8:00 am–Midnight)</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;46.92&#8243;N 73°12&#8242;44.27&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>St. Armand/Phillipsburg</td> <td>Route 133</td> <td>Highgate Springs</td> <td>I-89</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;55.55&#8243;N 73°5&#8242;5.17&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Morses Line</td> <td>Route 235</td> <td>Morses Line</td> <td>VT 235</td> <td>daytime service year round (8:00 am–Midnight)(USA) / daytime service year round (8:00 am–4:00 pm) (Canada)</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;51.45&#8243;N 72°58&#8242;42.59&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Frelighsburg</td> <td>Route 237</td> <td>West Berkshire</td> <td>VT 108</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;58.67&#8243;N 72°49&#8242;31.13&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>East Pinnacle</td> <td>Chemin de Richford</td> <td>Pinnacle Road</td> <td>Pinnacle Road</td> <td>24 hour service year round (USA) / daytime service year round (8:00 am–4:00 pm) (Canada)</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;56.03&#8243;N 72°42&#8242;00.15&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Abercorn</td> <td>Route 139</td> <td>Richford</td> <td>VT 139</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;54.00&#8243;N 72°39&#8242;45.51&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Glen Sutton</td> <td>Chemin de la Vallée-Missisquoi</td> <td>East Richford</td> <td>VT 105A</td> <td>24 hour service year round (USA) / daytime service year round (8:00 am–4:00 pm) (Canada)</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;42.79&#8243;N 72°35&#8242;19.13&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Highwater</td> <td>Route 243</td> <td>North Troy</td> <td>VT 243</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;26.12&#8243;N 72°24&#8242;57.25&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Stanstead (Beebe)</td> <td>Route 247</td> <td>Beebe Plain</td> <td>Beebe Road</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;20.93&#8243;N 72°08&#8242;31.16&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Stanstead (Rte. 143)</td> <td>Route 143</td> <td>Derby Line</td> <td>US 5</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;20.64&#8243;N 72°05&#8242;57.56&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Stanstead (55) (Formerly Rock Island)
    </td> <td>A-55</td> <td>Derby Line</td> <td>I-91</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;21.11&#8243;N 72°05&#8242;17.46&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Stanhope</td> <td>Route 147</td> <td>Norton</td> <td>VT 147</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;38.46&#8243;N 71°47&#8242;35.88&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Hereford Road</td> <td>Route 141</td> <td>Canaan</td> <td>VT 141</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;45.47&#8243;N 71°33&#8242;36.80&#8243;W</td> </tr> <tr> <td>East Hereford</td> <td>Route 253</td> <td>Beecher Falls</td> <td>VT 253</td> <td>24 hour service year round</td> <td>
    </td> <td>[​IMG]45°0&#8242;48.21&#8243;N 71°30&#8242;19.11&#8243;W</td></tr></tbody></table>
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  4. sierraoffroad

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    wow thanks man . very helpful. now I just need to hear from someone who has been up there and what the roads are like and so forth.
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  5. sailer

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    if you cross at Phillipburg (I 91) there are some really cool roads just over the border.

    just take your 1st right and head east, there are even some dirt roads as you head east.

    I did that a couple years back and found some really nice stuff as I headed to Maine

    I never was more then 15 miles north of the border
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  6. sierraoffroad

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    thanks sailor. i think i will stick to mostly paved roads, but i plan on staying close to the border my first time around. i plan on having a full tank of gas on the way in there so i won't have to stop unless it's for food. i wonder if they except american money up there along the border?
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  7. ridesdirt

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    Make sure you have your passport up to date and any outstanding infractions resolved. Go to your bank and exchange a couple of bucks or in one of the towns before you cross the border. Where you will be over the border for a short while, money won't be much of an issue. Exchange can be confusing for some businesses. Where do you plan to cross at? You could ride over to Norton and come down 114 (nice ride) or cross back over at Pittsburg,NH. Come down Moose Alley (RT 3)
    or cross over the border at Norton and cross back over at Derby.

    I see you live in Granville. I live in Granby CT go through your neck of the woods all the time on the bike to head North.
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  8. sierraoffroad

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    thanks ridesdirt. i'm not sure yet, but i think i will be heading up through VT and coming back down through NH. I plan on atleast a 150mile ride up in Canada. I do have a passport and don't have any infractions that i know of. good idea to look into just incase. I travel through Granby everyday to get to where I work in windsor. I do my best to mind the speed limit. I see the cops up and down 189 near east ST and then down through the center near the bike path.
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    first off, the border customs are listed on the wikipedia if you want a quick overview.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canada–United_States_border_crossings

    the more official version is
    http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/bwt-taf/menu-eng.html

    and
    http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/index.asp

    NOW--->>> Avoid this weekend, it is the end of the construction workers holiday and the crossing into canada wilee be terrible... we are talking many hours delay, easily. Not joking.

    sample trip (dunno where you start):
    grotton forest, smugglers notch, hazen notch (gravel),
    missisquoi scenic road, around magog lake,
    dixvile notch, maine 113, hurricane road NH, bear notch, kancmagus, NH 112.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=...mra=dme&mrsp=15&sz=9&via=3,5,6,7,8,14&t=m&z=8
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  10. EvilClown

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    Years ago we did the Puppy Dog ride (PD) up through Vermont, crossed over in Derby, Vt., did a small loop across Canada and came in to NH and wove our way down.

    The PD starts in Greenfield, Ma so it's convenient to you. Great ride of mixed dirt/pave. The Canada loop was...just plain dull in comparison. Back in NH/Maine the roads were great. dddd has a pretty good list there. Some are included in the below quoted post. Depending on where you decide to cross back in you could make a pretty good route using these roads:

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    yes they will, but if you use a Credit card that does not have a trans fee it will be better.

    I only found dirt because I was looking for it. good payment up there as well
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  12. sierraoffroad

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    thanks DDD, Evilclown, Sailer this is all very helpful info. I've done sections of the PD route and may follow that route home. i think i may slab it mostly to the campground as I plan on staying in VT for a couple of nights. I will have my father and a few other guys tagging along that aren't exactly looking to ride dirt unless it's a campground road although my father's Electra Glide isn't bad on dirt roads.
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  13. Irideeverything

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    For gas in Canada just use a credit card at the pump. If you need cash get it from an ATM (which you may find at the gas station). Have fun !!!!
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    Tell the old man to hold on tight and take the PDR all the way north :ricky
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    EvilClown Reality show stunt double Super Moderator

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    Another fun option in Vermont is the 'Gap' roads. All but a portion of Lincoln is paved. Zigzagging your way up through is a great ride.:ricky
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    The Northeast Kingdom of VT has some special roads. The Granby Road is a nice, wide, smooth gravel road (West-East/East-West) from the CT River (state line with NH) all the way to Burke VT which is just slightly SE of scenic Lake Willoughby.

    For a real backwoods ride of 20 or more miles (I wouldn't try it on a street bike, at least I wouldn't but I know some others who would...) the East Branch Road is interesting. It's a North-South Road connecting VT 114 at the Canadian Border to VT Rt 105, near Brighton State Park, Bloomfield VT and North Stratford NH. I haven't ridden this one in a lot of years but I hope to again soon.

    Also for an interesting detour consider the former North Concord Air Force (radar) Station at the top of East Mountain in East Haven VT. From the Granby Road (near the intersection with the Victory Road) take the road going north with the Victory Town Clerk sign. Follow about 8 miles to the top of East Mountain. A few miles in, there's bit of a clearing and a fork in the road. Take the right fork to the top.

    Have fun.
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  17. sierraoffroad

    sierraoffroad Long timer

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    ya know funny you mention those routes MWVALLEY. i did all those last year with my father and friends when we camped at island pond state park. we rode a cool dirt road from lake wiloughby over the mountain to island pond. the old man was puckering but did just fine on the electra glide. he misses his 1994 wing ding.
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    i haven't gone yet. will have to post pics when i do go hopefully in september.
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    I recently did a northern New England run and really enjoyed 3 from Pittsburg nh to 114 along the Canada border and down to dixville notch. Then, as stated, white mountain roads are great.
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  20. viverrid

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    Jeez it's only Canada, not like it's a foreign country or something. Oh wait.....
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