1. Jon B.

    Jon B. Been here awhile

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    I learned this afternoon that our local Community College offers a Wilderness First Aid course! Woot!

    And, the instructor is one of the EMTs/Paras (not sure which) here at the hospital. Since I'm still at work at 19:00, I may yet speak with her this evening (disaster drill in progress).

    Jon
  2. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    I need to get to work on something for the winter. I'm itching to go somewhere already. Been working on some other stuff that has been taking a lot of time. Lots of irons in the fire.
  3. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    Wisconsin Good Samaritan Law
    895.48 Civil liability exemption; emergency medical care.

    [FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]Any person who renders emergency care at the scene of any emergency or accident in good faith shall be immune from civil liability for his or her acts or omissions in rendering such emergency care. This immunity does not extend when employees trained in health care or health care professionals render emergency care for compensation and within the scope of their usual and customary employment or practice at a hospital or other institution equipped with hospital facilities, at the scene of any emergency or accident, enroute to a hospital or other institution equipped with hospital facilities or at a physician's office. [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana,Verdana]-Does not protect you from gross negligence.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana,Verdana]-Emergency care by a lay person involves "initial evaluation and immediate assistance, treatment, and intervention rendered during the period before care could be transferred to professional medical personnel". [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana,Verdana]-Abandonment can be an issue. If you render aid and then walk off or transfer responsibility to someone less trained, there can be an issue.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana,Verdana]-If you have training, must operate according to your training.[/FONT]




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  4. two trackin fool

    two trackin fool Long timer

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    Michigan has something simullar . I'm not sure of the of the P.A. # I should probley look it up .

    Check your local Red Cross they can usually get you in contact with someone . I took a MFR course a few years back really NOT MUCH MORE then a good First aid course .

    IMHO ~ Good nolage to have if your an avid out door person !
  5. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    For those taking long trips, it is a good idea to make sure that tetanus booster is reasonably up to date. A large or really dirty wound can present problems even if a guy had shot five years ago (booster standard is 10 years).

    If you go for a tetanus shot after the fact, it needs to be done within 72 hours to be effective. Someone might not seek or get to this until it is too late.

    I made a note to call and check on my own status.
  6. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    I've been thinking about running an NWAT trek over two separate weekends to give some people a crack at it that might not be able to devote a four day run all at once. Maybe do one weekend in May and another in June or something like that. Go up on a Friday night and return home on a Sunday night. Basically split it into two loops.

    I've hosted some day rides like this and it has worked well.

    Let me know if this would interest you. Maybe I can put something together that takes care of some people in this fashion.
  7. papalobster

    papalobster With Gusto!

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    :bluduh
  8. Jon B.

    Jon B. Been here awhile

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    I'd be among the "all at once" gang. Splitting it means two long drives for me; twice the gas money. Mrs. B. and I are imposing our own "austerity" plan, so that doesn't fit. Of course, *real* austerity would mean selling the bikes and not driving there at all...

    Nah. I may be fiscally conservative but I'm not a skinflint! :wink:

    Jon
  9. Jon B.

    Jon B. Been here awhile

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    Papa,

    You act as though you have actual, you know, experience in that area.

    Are you fully recovered yet? It's been three months.

    Jon
  10. biosci

    biosci Tumbleweed54473

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    PM'ed Cannon. Consider me " In" for split NWAT trips and a few others.
  11. papalobster

    papalobster With Gusto!

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    Sorry. Mostly healed. Still scabbing after 3 months. Other than that, the bills are getting paid by the TM insurance and the TM shirt brings comments whenever I wear it.
  12. two trackin fool

    two trackin fool Long timer

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    I have been known to take a week and hit the slab with a couple others .

    Sure would be nice to get off the slab for a change !!
    But my current plated bike probley wouldn't like single track much ....But yea never know till yea try :wink: .
  13. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    Just completed a 10 day Wilderness First Responder Course. Feel a lot better about dealing with some of the emergencies that can arise on some of the CannonRides. For those that are curious the course requires a lot of studying and may be more work than fun for many.

    Still strongly recommending that more people that share our recreational interest take a two day Wilderness First Aid course, or at least a standard first aid course from the Red Cross sometime over the winter.

    First aid skills are useful, even for managing minor wounds and injuries.
  14. ADWrider

    ADWrider AKA Acorn27

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    Good stuff Cannon. Especially 'noble' since you aren't necessarily doing this for yourself but more to help others. And in my short time here I've already seen two pictures of you splinting someone's broken arm...

    And speaking from experience, a good knowlege of first aid is something most people don't really appreciate, until you really need it - and then it's usally too late.
  15. MMMOTORCYCLE

    MMMOTORCYCLE Been here awhile

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    I have been carrying "Israeli bandages" for a couple of years now. If you are not familiar with them, have your first aid trainers become familiar with them and get educated. Military has been using them for years now with excellent results.

    They are sterile, can be self applied, apply pressure,used as a tourniquet (while not the best, can be done) or wrap for a splint. They are shrink wrapped/sealed and easy to pack. If you buy some, just be aware they have an experiation date because they are sterile. You can find them for about $5 each for a 4" bandage, but may have a short life expectancy. Expect to pay about $10 each

    Bryan...anything new on Cannonshot.Colorado?

    MichaelMichaelMotorcycle
  16. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    Military field dressings are great. Like you say, dressing, bandage, sling, pressure dressing . . . All packaged compactly in a durable vinyl overwrap that is tough enough to be packed in riding pack or vest. I'm sure the many military vets we have are familiar with the tried and true edition we've used for years.

    I should have mentioned to those that were packing SAM splits now that it would be good to pack about 4 cravats with them as well. Cheap but good to have for all kinds of things.

    New information on the clotting bandages is that some are not very effective and the ones that are may be doing some damage. It will be interesting to see what comes out of that. :dunno

    As far as upcoming rides I may be hosting . . .

    It is the time of the year when I work the research and planning for the season. I got sidetracked for a while doing some research and GPS work for the Trans-Canada folks so I am a little behind schedule on my own stuff. Starting to work some projects.
  17. OldSilverFox

    OldSilverFox Let's Go!

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    As far as upcoming rides I may be hosting . . .

    It is the time of the year when I work the research and planning for the season. I got sidetracked for a while doing some research and GPS work for the Trans-Canada folks so I am a little behind schedule on my own stuff. Starting to work some projects.[/QUOTE]


    How about a CannonTrek of the TCAT???
  18. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    Sounds like it would be good for retirees and school teachers. :evil
  19. siyeh

    siyeh unproductive

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    may I ask what is this?

    I have three weeks to explore Colorado this August as I visit and beer with my cousins near Denver.
  20. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    There has been some talk of perhaps putting together a manageable sized group on big bikes to ride places they shouldn't ride big bikes. :dunno