Can't deside....Buy Both

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by ggamster, Aug 12, 2012.

  1. Happy Seal

    Happy Seal Long timer

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    You should have used the money you spent to buy two mediocore bikes and bought one good Beta, Husaberg, or KTM and had money left over to smack up the suspension! :eek1

    Just my .02 but carry on! I'll read it and thanks for sharing, it'll help someone for sure!
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  2. Robert OK

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    Don't know about the Honda, but my WR250R is not impressed with being called mediocre. Most fun bike I've ever owned. Nothing mediocre about that much fun. :huh
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  3. Navin

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    A Z50 can be a laugh riot too, doesn't make it a serious machine! :lol3
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  4. xplodee

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    this forum is hilarious. I've been reading motorcycle forums about various bikes for the last ten years and this is the only one I've ever been on where people are constantly comparing the lengths of their weiners. Mine is bigger than yours! ;) My KTM is better than your "kiddy" bike ;P blah blah.

    I love my CRF250L and I really appreciate the original poster's review. Thank you! I'm looking forward to installing whatever suspension improvements I can on my bike, shouldn't be a problem with the $2k I saved over the WRr ;)
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  5. Navin

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    Sounds like orange envy? :norton

    You admit there are different performance levels within the motorcycle realm, yes? Not everyone is Hell bent for leather to buy the cheapest machine and not everyone needs a top level bike. Something for everyone. Why a guy would buy two of the closer to the bottom rung bikes for more $ than a premium bike is a valid question. Even after reselling one of them the + 20% depreciation + reg + taxes seems a waste.

    Why would someone do this? To compete with moto journalists who are being paid to compare and have a track record, good or bad, with readers? I can't say I get it either.
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  6. Robert OK

    Robert OK Been here awhile

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    Are you serious? You must be on a different internet.
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  7. kirbi69

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    1994 honda xr 600 r, plated, PWNS ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  8. Robert OK

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    I'm sure you realize that a "serious machine" is not necessarily tops in criteria for a person in the market for one of these two bikes.

    Being an indecisive person, I can sort of admire the OP's solution. Do I have cake or ice cream, hmmm, I'll have both.
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  9. AZ TOM

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    Off roading 90% the rider 10% the bike:wink: Ride whatever works for you.
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  10. joec63

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    If the majority of my time was spent in the dirt I have no doubt a KTM would be sitting in the garage since that is it's bread and butter. The CRF fits the bill for the moment. These DS's are all a compromise that doesn't do any aspect particulary first rate. Some weighted more to street and others to off pavement. For the low entrance fee I'll thrash this thing around and get my money's worth and probably by something more serious next summer to park beside it. It's all good! :evil
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  11. ggamster

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    No, this is stock to stock.
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  12. ggamster

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    Well.....the reason.....suspense building.....is......I wanted a WR and my wife need a bike. She is to short for a WR with a 27" inseam. So looked at the KLX and the DR and the CRF. The CRF won. Yeah :clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

    So I bought them within a week of each other.
    Someone wanted to know my riding level. I have been riding for a long time. I starting working ant the local Yamaha Suzuki dealer at 15. That is when I bought my first real dirt bike. A RT180 in black and red. Flipped it over the first day I bought it trying to ride a wheely for the neighbor girl. At the time I was embarrassed but I ended up hittin it about 10 years latter so it must have worked. I have been riding ever since. I ride every day of the year other than ice and I live in IL so I think that is saying something. If you view my past bikes you will get the idea. I go though a ton of them. I normally get a new one every six months or so. I have had many more other than what is listed but there isn't enough room to list them all.

    This leads me to the KTM guy. Are you kidding. KTM hasn't released a bike that I would call reliable in the last ten years. Oh wait...the FREERIDE. The three dealers around me don't even know what it is STL, Evansville, and Nashville. I had to beg them to call about it and when they did "I don't know" was the answer. My least favorite bikes of the majors made are KTM. Nothing like a dealer network that doesn't know shit. :freaky Don't get me wrong. I love the bike on paper. I love the way they look. I hate the way they ride. I hate their bugs. I hate the dealers. With that said. I can buy what ever bikes I wish. I am educated on almost every model in existence. I like to RIDE. I like to work on bikes. However if I find myself working on bikes more than I ride my bikes. I'm not HAPPY anymore. Therefore no KTM. I don't want to turn this into a bike slam or anything of the sort but please do not enter a thread comparing two different bikes and say things like. "I don't know why you don't get a KTM or a suzuki or an airplane or a car. A car would be better. You are dumb." That isn't what this post is about. It is about a WR and a CRFL bottom line. If you aren't interested in the comparison of these two models then don't read the post!

    Ok, now with that said. I go to ride a lot more this weekend. I also lowered the CRF for my wife. I noticed no ill effects from this other than ground clearance.
    I rode the WR in the woods quite a bit this weekend. It was mostly all on tight single track. Some was sandy and rocky other areas were just a mud pit. The bike did great and for a bike with 3k mile service intervals. All I can say is wow what a great bike. If you want to ride hard off road the WR is great, also performs great on road. It has more balls than the Honda in every way.
    Now for the Honda. It is an amazing motorcycle for the money/for beginner. It will do everything the WR will do just won't do it as well or fast. If you are going to buy the CRFL don't buy it with the intention of upgrading the suspension. Everything about the bike is just less than the WR. You could upgrade the suspension but you still don't have the same bike as the WR, It just will always be a lesser bike. I love the little Honda but it is more of a great farm bike kind of along the lines of the 230L. You can trail ride it, you can ride two up, you can ride it on the road. It just does so in a mild manor. It will never be an attack type of machine. Ride it for what it is a cheap WR. Speaking of which. The Honda takes as low as 86 octane. I love that. I live in the country and finding 91+ is kind of like finding a 18 year old virgin around here.:lol3
    Anyway, this is the last report for a while. If you have any questions related to these two bike just ask.:ear
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  13. Navin

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    I guess eveybody has a different idea of what an "attack" style bike is? :lol3

    For me the WRR couldn't deliver the performance its style promised. Good luck with both bikes!
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  14. HandKPhil

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    Oh yeah? Well I have a big, orange KTM attack weiner. :D
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  15. ggamster

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    Agreed! The fastest bike I ride is a KX100. I love it when the "big bikes" come ride at the farm. The KX250 sits the YZ426 sits, the KX100 gets hatted the whole time I love playing with my little wiener! :lol3
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  16. 150ron

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    To the original poster of this thread, GREAT REVIEW, good comparission for sure, thanks for taking the time to type all of it up, i too would love to see some pics of both bikes next to each other from different angles, and i think your advice about both bikes sounds really spot on. :clap


    To the 2 tards talking about their KTM'S or their 1985 xr650r's or whatever, douchebags! stfu, nobody cares, go ride your bikes. :dizave:flip:stfu
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  17. Dirtgrain

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    Thanks for the comparisons, Ggamster. I look forward to more insights.
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  18. kirbi69

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    its a 1994 Xr600r not a 1985 650r, they didnt make them back then. :evil
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  19. GotMojo?

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    Why are you posting in a thread about a WRR then? If you don't like those bikes, don't read threads about them. I see you in the CBR and Ninja 250 threads a lot too, complaining about their small engines and lackluster suspensions. If you don't like these types of bikes, ignore the threads about them!
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  20. Navin

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    Why not?

    Aw geez, I like to stay informed about all bikes and have an opinion. Asking where he was coming from and why he bought both is a valid query. It is important to know who is posting about stuff like totally subjective moto reviews. It is different for everyone. Is your (insert favorite brand) beer cozy empty? :norton


    p.s. I've had a Ninja 250 and a WR250R, probably will own another Ninja 250 soon. I LOVE small engines!!! I reserve the right to blast them for their weaknesses in my opinion as does anyone else. It is a machine, get over it!
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