Canyonlands Adventure Ride. May 2013

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by COXR650L, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. RideFreak

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    That was a great day of riding, sorry I didn't get more of you in the vid. We need to do it again sometime.
  2. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    Jeff,
    Starting at 7:42 on Freaky's Hite to Flint Trail video (1st one).. if you look at the soil it appears to me to be some of that nasty clay that I mentioned a few months ago. If this gets wet it is a nightmare (icy and balls up BOTH) which is an issue for bigger bikes especially. I've never been more bummed than once long ago when I was completely stuck in this stuff with no options and miles from getting out, so yeah it's one of those "sensitive issues" for me. :lol3 Likewise as to the snowmelt situation you mentioned earlier for the higher altitude forest section.

    But unfortunately snowmelt is not looking to be an issue this year <sigh>. :cry

    Nonetheless I'm curious as to any options for bail outs if we approach one of these sections and the conditions look dicey for us bigger bikes (with camping gear as well).

    Thoughts?

    p.s. I've seen Jeep YouTubes of Elephant Hill but anybody got any bike vids of this and the Bobby's Hole - if these are the 2 toughest sections?</sigh>
  3. TNC

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    Elephant Hill was easily accomplished by a couple of geezers...me and Howell...last year with Hellsickle's group, and I was on a KLX250 dual sport bike. Not that tough. I've done Bobby's Hole on a KLR650 in the past, and I think there's a link on this thread that shows a girl named Jennifer riding a couple of XT250's up BH because the owners didn't want to try it. Look for the thread here that has quite a few pics of her making the ascent on the XT's.
  4. COXR650L

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    So for the Abajos we have a few options, but we would probably skirt the higher sections and come out on North Creek, into Montacello, take the hwy around to natural bridges and then pick up the route again.

    This is just in the case of snowpack though.

    Unfortunately if we get in the middle of a rain storm we are pretty much committed and there is no bailouts between Hite and the Swell..... (crossing the dirty devil is probably not an option)


    I have seen some you tube vids I will see if I can find them.

    Bobby's Hole:
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    I cant find any of Elephant hill, I think Chris's may be the first!
  5. RideFreak

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    Don't you like how that guy in the video rides up that hill. He's on a DR650 (larger bike) that's loaded down riding up a relatively steep rocky trail yet he's sitting down. At first I thought he must be really good rider then I see him hit some of the rocks and realize basically he's just hanging on. That's a great way to ride off the edge of the trail. He's at the mercy of the terrain.

    That's an easy hill if you hit it in the right manner.
  6. Greg@RME

    Greg@RME Weekend Adventurer

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    I do believe Bobby's Hole Hill is very sensitive to 4WD traffic and is loose enough that changing the difficulty of the hill is easy. If someone in a 4x4 had gone up and spun out & loosened the rocks before you get there, it's going to be much more difficult. IMO, it's one of those places that can be easily altered for the worse by one or 2 vehicles.
  7. AKASY

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    :lol3:lol3:rofl:rofl:roflThen you had better not follow RF up:evil Much less Mtech:freaky
  8. AtomicGeo

    AtomicGeo Yep, ranked 49th.

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    Are we there yet? :ear
  9. Blakebird

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    I believe that's an LC4e with 18l tank. :evil
  10. Wannabeeuro

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  11. RideFreak

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    Yup you guys are right, I expected better form out of a KTM rider :D
  12. COXR650L

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    I wish, but I'm glad I still have some time. I have a ton of work on the bike to get done still and very little time:huh:bluduh
  13. sknx

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    Gents,

    I have a question that some of you might have some experience:
    Got a trailer a few weeks ago that I intend to use for our trip but have no idea what's the easiest way to register it. Have the bill of sale along with the title an some manuals with specs but the title is from another state and the trailer has no vin.
    I remember reading a thread about declaring it as home built but I cannot find it for the life of me. I'm in Jefferson county.
    I'll appreciate any pointers.

    Boby
  14. TNC

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    What kind of trailer?...RV, utility, motorcycle, etc.?
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    I find most states will let you register just about any utility trailer as homebuilt, especially one without a serial number. Not sure what you guys in CO have to contend with there, but it's hard to imagine that CO would have difficulty just doing a state-to-state transfer on your trailer. You have a bill of sale and a title. What else would they want?...blood?...first born? Now, I realize CO is becoming a bit more like California, but I had hopes that they hadn't gone completely over into the abyss.:lol3
  17. sknx

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    I wouldn't bash them yet. Didn't get the turn around 'cause I have done nothing about it but I'm trying to figure out the easiest approach. Is it worth going with the out of state title and BOF or just declare it as new home built.



  18. TNC

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    No bashing, just joking. Have you tried just calling and asking those questions? You don't have to identify yourself or commit any identifying info. You can get some answers on your scenarios and then pick the best one that suits you.
  19. COXR650L

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    I have never done it but from my experience with the DMV this is my input.............

    Without a VIN the state will not license it as a title transfer from another state , dont bother everything in colorado has to have some kind of VIN, it will confuse them and be a hassle.

    I would just say it was purchased it as a homemade trailer and provide the bill of sale (not the out of state title), fill out form 2409 from here http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/Revenue-MV/RMV/1211879852491 and maybe just a call to the DMV to make sure you got all the forms done.

    Just make sure your name and the sellers name are made out exactly as the bill of sale reads. I ran into a real problem trying to title an MC with a different name variation.

    Sorry I cant give any first hand info, but I think you would be pretty safe with this approach.

    Edit:

    As I think about it I might not even give the bill of sale and just say you made the trailer new and provide form 2409. Call down there and say you just got done making a homemade trailer and ask how to title it. I am sure this will be the least amount of hassle!! haha

  20. AtomicGeo

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    Getting closer. :clap