Canyonlands Adventure Ride. May 2013

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  1. Assfault

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    It would be easier without 50lbs of crap strapped to the bike, and or a lighter bike.
    Either way, I wouldn't of not done it without you Sy. Best riding partner a ADVer could ask for.
    Looks like I'm booked thru this next month working, just a 1 day break in the middle, to hopefully do the Boondoggle Ride with Yellowpig and Co. That ride is truelly a DS ride. None of those shenanagins like out west on the CL Ride.:rofl
  2. AKASY

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    I think YellowPig is down here this week--he got a map starting in Alcalde from Hair----now if you know Hair, well there just might be some deep sand and arroyos involved:lol3
  3. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    Gold Bar, Golden Spike, doesn't one of those have some big ass steps on it? :eek1 I did the Kokopelli trail on a mountain bike in my middle ages, going down Rose Garden I sure wish I had some real suspension and big ass tires, oh yeah and a MOTOR! Where's that thread where some kid made a wrong turn and took a Toyota sedan rental on that and it survived? was that on ADV? great reading...
  4. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    Ok I finally put together some pics from a few riders in our "subgroup"... the ones carrying full camping gear, so not the fast and light Chili eaters, and not the big pig pavement pounders either.

    My full ride report with more pictures, a collection of all videos, GPS Tracks and more, is over at MY WEB SITE

    But here's a summary of what happened to some of us. We got split up at Elephant Hill but rode together the next day...

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    Day 1:

    Leaving Mickey D's in Moab:
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    On Day 1 at Elephant Hill we were right behind the fast and light guys, studying the lines before just attacking, and filling in some gaps with rocks. I had thought about it all winter and was determined to stay on the pegs and ride that bitch...
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    and I just made it up that first tough section on my G650 XCountry...
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    ... but my riding buddy Greg on the Kawi KLX250... well not so much luck as he went sideways and cracked his right side cover:
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    So we walked my bike back down and I helped convince Greg it can be fixed... JB Weld Kwik comes through again!
    More on Elephant Hill in a later post.
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    We got it fixed then did the longer easy way in to Beef Basin Road to camp 1 in Ruin Park ... a couple more guys came with us to avoid the "agony and the ecstasy" route through Needles. I *REALLY* missed not seeing Chesler Park and all the needles, it has been 30 years since I've been in this part of Canyonlands and you guys that saw it know how spectacular it is. Guess we'll have to do this again next year!

    So... even though we spotted the rest of the group a 2 hour head start, and 60 miles vs. the main group going only 17 gorgeous but DIFFICULT miles, to my surprise we ended up arriving at camp at the same time!

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  5. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    On Day 2 it started out very fast, and I thought WoodenShoe road to Hite was a lot of fun. Then Ben's air filter intake was pissing him off so I agreed to lead the group up Flint trail to camp 2 since I had the GPS tracks, so he slabbed it the fast way (did you get gas at the Flintstones gas station in the sandstone in Hanksville? love that place).

    Leading and going first proved to be my undoing, as we'll see..

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    Day 2 started out with Greg reporting only minor leaks in his JB Weld. I think he was happy and didn't worry anymore about getting stranded (plus we snagged a quart of oil at Needles the night before)...
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    Obligatory Ruins photo. It's like Malcomb Smith showing the new dirt biking couple the joys of riding... I'm bummed we didn't have time to see all the ruins, only this one.
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    I love this picture (at least the Hi Res version). On Woodenshoe road, this is Ben and the fast "old guy" with the purple accented jacket from Ohio(?) (not as old as me probably :lol3 so I can say that), sorry I forgot your name, you can gimme crap for that I'll take it.
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    So after gas in Hite I was leading. We were on the Flint trail about 20 miles in and I was going at a nice clip, pretty far ahead of my buddy Greg behind me. I had that false confidence telling me sure I can handle anything that comes along at this speed. When suddenly I see I wish I was in the left track as the right one has a gawd awful deep rut filled with loose silty red dust where jeeps had made a nasty deep rut. It was over a slight crest, no time to change tracks or slow down.

    Long story short I did an Endo over the bars as my front wheel dug in, landing 10 feet in front of the bike on my back and side. My helmet hit pretty hard but all of my ribs hurt though I could tell nothing seemed broken really. After 4 weeks now they are starting to feel better.

    I got a face full and helmet full of dirt, took awhile to clean up my helmet so I could see. And it really tweaked my handlebars, even bent my aluminum subframe a couple of inches. Speed kills, but damn it's fun :clap Actually GPS's kill as well, I'm sure I was screwing with it...

    I swear this was the only place on the whole ride where there was an actual hard sided "rut" with silty dirt in it! It was Huge, no really, Neduro would have even crashed at the speed I was going! :lol3 :lol3 yeah right.

    Here's a pic after everybody picked up my bike:
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    Someday I WILL make it to the Dollhouse. Not today, no way, though I carried a gallon of gas in an MSR dromedary bag all day, from Hite to camp where I poured it in :lol3. <sigh>
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    I thought these were the "Flint switchbacks". Pretty wimpy I thought to myself. Nope they were later. Pretty fun actually.
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    Here's most of our group of 7 right after the switchbacks at the top:
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    Hans Flat Ranger station. Lynda the superstar...
    I'm glad it got faster after this or we would be getting in way after dark! But it got REALLY fast.
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    The sign at the end of the dirt at Hwy 24.
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    Day 3

    I was one hurtin' unit, luckily my ribs didn't hurt on the bike, only while lying down... so I got up pretty late and didn't get out very early. We checked out the Swasey Cabin and Black Dragon wash was a fun ride.
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    Great ride, next time I will make it to the Needles dammit!
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  6. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    My riding partner Greg on the Kawi KLX250 took some GoPro footage and I made a little video of sections of the entire ride. Tried to get shots of people in it... plus the Black Dragon wash is at the end.

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  7. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    Ok here's the thing. I took my first trip to Utah in 1983, I was on a '74 Yamaha MX360 with a Baja tank. The 2-stroke ran like crap and it rained so much we got stuck in the clay in Beef Basin and it was messing with the ignition too, so overall it had no power. It was miserable.

    I was the only motorcycle in the group. It was 2 buddies in an old Land Cruiser pulling my little moto trailer. We ditched the trailer at Fisher Towers, and I rode it on US 191 in the rain from Moab to the Needles district entrance. I remember riding on the 18" between the white line and the edge of the pavement while semi's passed me 2 feet away in the rain going 60 mph. I had a crappy rubberized rain suit on and by the time we got to Needles I was shivering uncontrollably with hypothermia.

    I remember riding Elephant Hill without even thinking, and all the other steps to get to our camp in Chesler Park. But I don't remember it being particularly hard. I think all the Jeeps since then and the pouring of concrete and asphalt has made it harder when it gets separated into big tall blocks.

    Anyhow... I had not been back to this area since 1983. And Elephant Hill has always been in my mind. But now my bike is bigger, heavier and less ground clearance. Oh yeah being OLDer means having to "see what condition my condition is in" before attempting crazy stuff anymore.

    Dirt bike are one thing but bigger and heavier, plus camping gear, well yeah I was trying to gauge my risk level and would it be too much? Was my bike and myself not up to it? So yeah I was "concerned" over the winter about this obstacle. But what the hell, gotta go get it done, right?

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    I'm telling you this so you have some idea of the reason for me obsessing over Elephant Hill. I was determined to get on the pegs and RIDE it, if it looked doable. So I'm gonna do some bragging, it is rare I have any reason to. But first, here's a little video I made that shows the battle that my riding buddy and I had on Elephant Hill.

    Greg (KLX250) shot the footage and I edited it. I am on the BMW G650 XCountry.
    Here's our methodical "Assault on Elephant Hill":

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    I DID IT! :norton Ok well the first part, I had to go back down to help Greg fix his bike...

    But ok now I'm gonna brag so bear with me and get ready to flame me (Hellsickle I expect something clever from you)...

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    OK. If it pleases the court of ADV I present to you the above video plus the following evidence, taken from RideFreak's Elephant Hill Video of the "fast and light" crew...

    You will see that in fact I was the only rider in our group with a 650 or bigger bike that RODE it up the tricky first section of Elephant Hill without a single foot dab.
    :evil And in fact I was loaded with camping gear as well. [ I know, I know, amazing isn't it ].

    ++ Exhibit A ++
    I present the KLR 650 rider <from a="" land="" only="" slightly="" newer="" than="" mexico=""> who paddled the entire section. A safe and wise choice. <wimp! wimp!="" :lol3 The RideFreak (Chris's) video shows this clearly but here is a still shot showing the feet down and Chris's hands on the bike pushing him:

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    ++ Exhibit B ++
    Oh Assfault <sigh>. Out of the saddle and walking, so many hands helping... [ tsk, tsk, tsk] not a contender for bragging rights, clearly. What can I say, it's called "Adventure Riders" not "Adventure Walkers" :lol3 :lol3
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    So there ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you have seen the overwhelming evidence, and as you can see the bragging rights clearly are in my corner.

    Thank you.
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    What? what's that you ask? "But surely our fearless leader Ben, who single handedly rode 37 motorcycles up Bobby's Hole hill in a matter of minutes..... Surely Ben cleaned Elephant Hill?"

    ... so I too thought, until I examined the Freak man's video closely.. and what do you think I found?

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    <from a="" land="" only="" slightly="" newer="" than="" mexico=""><wimp! wimp!="" :lol3<sigh>++ Exhibit C ++
    THERE THERE - a foot DAB! Clearly! The weight shifted to the left foot, planted firmly on the ground at the top of the obstacle. Not to mention only seconds later he would be at the top of the next corner and falling to the ground (ok well there were too many people blocking the landing zone so that is understandable <hehehe>)...
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    So there, ladies and gentlemen, until further evidence is presented to dispute my case, I declare myself "king of the first corner of Elephant Hill on a 650 or bigger on this day"!

    Now sand and silt ruts, well that's another thing... <sigh>

    Please PM me for autographs and I will reply with an address for the SASE. I will be signing autographs for a $25 donation to Ben's chosen "Utah Shared Access Alliance" fundraiser, until the 8x10 photographs of me run out.

    I rest my case. :wink:</sigh></hehehe></sigh></wimp!></from>
  8. RideFreak

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    I can hear it now,

    "So you're that guy, the king of the first corner of Elephant Hill on a 650 or bigger"
    "Yup, that's me"
    "What's it like on the top?"
    "Uhh, beats me, I never made it that far." :eek1
  9. Assfault

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    Hey, Snooker is at the very least upholding the BMW mantra, "I will pat myself on the back and put down others"
    humblebragging.
    Good work Snooker, keep up the tradition!
  10. TNC

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    Pfffft!...snooker, you got nothin'! Last year when I was riding with Hellsickle's group going up Elephant Hill, I saw a real man displaying some real riding talent. An older gentleman, Howell, was going up the hill from the parking lot just in front of me while I was bringing up the rear. He was riding an older KTM250 2-stroke. When he got to that first big step-up pictured in your video, the back end kicked out. Did he kill the engine and give up...No! Howell kept the gas on, and in fact he kept the gas on so hard that the bike did a couple of full 360's while he stood in the middle, just turning with the bike so as not to get knocked down by the wildly spinning bike. He looked like a matador with his cape teasing a mad bull in circle after circle. At first I thought he was going to fall and crash big time, but then I realized he was just winding up the bike for another attack on the big step-up. He slung his leg over the bike and continued up the hill and over the ledge. It was the most violent non-crash I've ever witnessed. At the top of the hill I asked Howell for his autograph.:lol3

    But seriously, snooker, great vids of the action. I met up with y'all over at Ben's camp in the swell for the cookout, and I saw the cracked engine cover on the KLX. Impressive. When I got home I went out to the auto parts strore and got some JB Weld Quikstick.
  11. AKASY

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    Wait-wait, if he didn't get to the top then that means he stopped. If he stopped he put his foot\feet down:eek1
    So that implies that in fact he did not make it without a dab:evil Short of videos or pictures showing the turn around without feet\foot on the ground---it didn't happen:lol3
    Sooo, seems to me that he falls into the same league as the rest of us that put a foot or in my case other assorted significant body parts down on Elephant Hill:ear
  12. TNC

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    So...all this talk of "dabbing"...was this a fully sanctioned AMA trials event or just an outlaw competition?:lol3
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    There were so many guys standing around on all the difficult hills that everyone looked like a fully sanctioned trials meet:lol3 But not sure the AMA gives spotters cameras and digital camcorders:wink:
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    mtech1950 Been here awhile

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    Day number 2.

    This one leaves from Blanding, up Woodenshoe Rd, then up the Flint Trail.
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    Lost my back brake about 1/2 way thru this vid, not the most comfortable situation to be in on the Flint Trail.
  16. AtomicGeo

    AtomicGeo Yep, ranked 49th.

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    Day 2 was my favorite day of the 3 days. I liked the section heading toward Hite.

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  17. AtomicGeo

    AtomicGeo Yep, ranked 49th.

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    :lol3 Been snooked.
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    Great Vid Chris!! Question is, did you dab on day 2??:lol3:norton
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    AtomicGeo Yep, ranked 49th.

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    What?

    No brake.... :lol3
  20. TNC

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    LOL!...yeah, I saw him running around in camp that evening trying to scrounge brake fluid. However, that probably kept him from dabbing since there was no way he could put a foot down with a runaway KTM.:lol3