Car tire on my Burgman 650

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Cat0020, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    I had local tire shop mounted a $45 Pirelli 190SC snow tire on the back wheel of my Burgman 650. they mounted the tire with couple of minutes, didn't even charge me.
    Balanced and mounted the wheel back on the scoot and put over 60 miles on it today.
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    Not a whole lot of clearance between tire and swingarm:

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    I can't tell that it lacks any cornering ability just yet, new tires I'll give it a few hundred miles before I really push it. But the speedo it more accurate compared to GPS, used to be 10%+ difference, now is about 4-5%. Lower engine rpm but cruise at higher speed.. will it result in fuel saving? I will see in a few days.
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  3. davidfrench

    davidfrench Been here awhile

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    gezzzz I've always wondered why motorcycle tires were round...
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    The PacRat I'm that other guy

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    All those thousands of people running them for thousands of miles who LOVE them, and the excellent performance, must be CRAZY! :rofl




    Or not.
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    I like the way you think, but how are you going to turn? I think my life is worth more than that......
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  6. The PacRat

    The PacRat I'm that other guy

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    It is only for motorcycles that go in a straight line. Countless people who have never tried it have already proven that is is certain death. The same people have also already proven that DynaBeads cannot work and therefore do not work.

    But - if you want to read about it...

    http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2004/10/27/theDarkSide.html
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  7. Cat0020

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    I've put about 80 miles on the car tire, on my twisty commute of 10 mi. one way to school, speed do not exceed 60 mph. I can tell the ride is much smoother. Car tire has maximum pressure rating of 44 psi., mine is inflated to 42 psi. snow tire seems to soak up road bumps better than scooter/moto tire.

    The transition between lean (cornering) and upright (straighaway) is more distinct, it's not a even effort when you transition between the two, more of a spiked transition feel.

    Whether car tire offer more or less traction while leane over is yet to be determine, I havn't really pushed the pace through the twisties since both front and rear tire have less than 150 miles on them.

    Speedo on the Burgman is more closely related to GPS readings, used to be 10-12% higher speed with scooter tire, now at 4-5% higher speed.

    Higher GPS speed is acheived with less engine rpm, whether that will indicate fuel efficiency increase is also yet to be determined.

    So far, I'm happy that the car tire cost only $45 ($0 to install)vs $100+ for similar size scooter rear tire alone. I'm expecting to get higher mileage out of the car tire also.
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  8. MODNROD

    MODNROD Decisions, decisions

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    HEE!HEE!HEE!:rofl

    Damn! And here I was thinking I was alive and kicking.......oh wait, no that's just the Vmax frame telling me to go faster with the square tyre.

    Vmax's don't corner anyway.........:wink:
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    The PacRat I'm that other guy

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    I LOVE my DynaBeads - they work great (for me)! As soon as I need a rear tire, I'm going DARKSIDE too.

    In fact, it will be Darkside with Dynabeads! I wouldn't be surprised if it blows up and kills me the first time I make a turn! :poser
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  12. MODNROD

    MODNROD Decisions, decisions

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  13. JerseyBiker

    JerseyBiker Living the life!

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    I heard about this for a while and have a car tire sitting in my garage waiting for my next change on the Silverwing.

    BUT, I'm curious, why didja go with a snow tire? First I heard of that.

    Could you tell us abit about the decision to go snow tire rather than non-snow tire?
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  14. Cat0020

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    More tread depth, likely a softer compound than "touring" tire.. and at $45, it was a good deal.
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  15. JerseyBiker

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    Makes sense. Thanks for the info.

    BTW - tire looks good on the Bman!
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  17. Dave in Wi

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    What's the latest thinking on a current make & model for a car tire on a Burgman 650? I've Googled a Bridgestone 165/65 R14 Potenza RE92, but the post was a few years old.

    It's for my dad, he has a trike kit and needs a new tire soon.
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  18. JerryH

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    Where are all the safetycrats? This must be even more dangerous than riding without ABS. Certain death. NOT. Back when I had a Goldwing, I rode someone else's GW with a car tire on the back. It handled fine. I was going to put one on mine, but the transmission gave out first. The big benefit to running a car tire on a large heavy bike is that they last twice as long as a motorcycle tire, and cost way less. Goldwings eat rear tires. It has been proven safe by tens of thousands of riders. I don't know of a single accident that has been caused because of it. This is one of those situations where reality doesn't match theory. It would be nice if motorcycle tire companies made tires that lasted longer and cost less. But they don't.

    As for Dynabeads, never tried them. I have a home made balancing machine, and balance all my tires by hand, with weights.
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  19. Unstable Rider

    Unstable Rider Moto Fotografist

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    Your all going to DIE!

    I am kidding. I have been following a forum thread elsewhere where guys are running car tires on the back of their Pacific Coasts and having great results, no wipeouts. I have seen the video, great contact, and guess what.... the rubber will wear nicely and soon have rounded corners.... and lots of tread to spare. A PC-800 is 60 pounds heavier than a Super Tenere, and 100 pounds heavier than a Sportster. The wider longer lasting tire worth the pursuit, for those willing to go outside the box.

    Like the guys that say "you must run these special trailer tires for your trailer"..... we have been running car tires on trailers for years and never had a problem. Hell we run nitrogen in them and the air doesn't change in a year's time.

    Ohhh, you could run nitrogen in your car tire on your bike... now you are doomed to certain death!
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  20. bandito2

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    You could probably get a tire shop to order a GT Radial CHAMPIRO WinterPro for you in a 155/65R14 size. It is probably the closest to stock size in a car tire as far as diameter is concerned. Only 5mm less in width than the scooter tire and only slightly taller than stock. Not to worry though. A bike can only use about 1/4 to 1/3 of the total tread width of a bike tire at any one given time anyway; whereas a car tire uses the full width of the tread most of the time. It's a factor in why they last longer than bike tires even though the car tire uses a softer rubber compound than a bike tire. Load and wear is shared across the full tread width unlike a bike tire that gets most of the wear right down the center-line of the tire.

    It's not as common nor as available as the usual 165/65R14 car tires, but they are a better fit IMO.

    On my Silverwing Scooter I use a 165/65R13 instead of the more commonly used and more readily available 165/70R13 car tires which is considerably taller than the stock scooter tire. But the 165/65R13 car tire is closest diameter wise and has no negative effect on the ABS brakes.
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