car tire size for Vstrom ??? (Pros and cons of car tire on a bike)

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Jimm Dandy, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. 100mpg

    100mpg Self Imposed Exile

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    Judging by the condition of that motor cycle, I would not listen to any advice or comment he about operating or maintaining a motorcycle. or anything else, now that I thought a bit about it.

    over inflating a tire to make it bulge in the middle is like a death wish and the proof is the oil pouring out of the front end.
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  2. azgsa

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    Death wish huh? :muutt

    Perhaps I should have called the national suicide prevention hotline. :hmmmmm
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    LMAO he looks just like I would picture a "darkside rider" lol! :lol3 Stupid is as stupid does :rofl

    Now that is funny as hell, thanks for the photo of one of these genius "darksiders" that think they know more than motorcycle manufacturers, tire manufacturers or even an 8 year old for that matter. You will never be able to reason with one of these idiots. They will continue to convince themselves that their car tires make their bikes handle great and are safe. Some people you just can not help. All we can do is point and laugh at them and hope they do not kill an innocent person when they eventually crash.
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    If you you have those types of thoughts, you should call.
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    Dang,,,,,:photog I was wondering how long it would take the peanut gallery folk to bring up the "What if" and "but, but,,,,, but think about the children" arguments.:rofl:rofl:rofl


    Ohhhhhh myyyyyy,,,,, the atmosphere will catch fire, the sky will fall, kittens maimed and nuns will die. REPENT,,,,,, REPEENNNNNT YOUR EVIL WAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:yikes:eek1:jack:poser:oscar
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  6. dwc

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    I don't know much about the subject, but saw this thread and decided to mention the subject on a UK VStrom site. The topic was met with much the same derision.

    DWC
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  7. sect8dr

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    Michelin has the new CommanderII tire and it is supposed to last 20,000+ miles on a rear. Much better than a car tire even if it was designed to go on a heavy ass cruiser
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  8. Jud

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    Gonna have to check on it to see if they offer it in a DL size {150 section 17 inch rim} because that's exactly why I decided to experiment with the CT. Basically, I needed a tire that would last an easy 15K miles, two-up and heavily loaded. Had nothing to do at all with being cheap,,,, though you couldn't get the peanut gallery dumbasses to understand or acknowledge that. They would always have some sorta witty, wonderful {or maybe not so witty nor wonderful but you couldn't tell em that either} argument for that too.:deal:1drink
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    The Dumb-siders will never admit that they are wrong so there is really no arguing with them. That said you should always post in these threads the folly of it. Friends don't let friends go to the Dumb-side. :1drink
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    OK, I'll bite ...:rofl ... Here's something to make the trolls gnash their teeth about. Normally I don't do this because it goes counter to what I tell fellow "darksiders" but I will repeat it again:

    Words of wisdom to the intrepid souls that decide to use a car tire or any other modifications they may make to their bike for that matter: Be bold. Experiment. But do so informed as well as you can be and know that consequences for really bad decisions can be dangerous and damaging and ideas that are successful are worth sharing.
    And I also say GO FOR IT!!!
    If it works out, then good for you. It won't matter what anyone else says when you KNOW you are right about your decision. Be quietly satisfied with yourself, speak honestly and modestly of your success and let the naysayers eat crow.
    Having said that, here goes anyway

    I was the first to start using car tires on the Honda Reflex back on June 6, 2008. I took a lot of flack from naysayers for quite a while and had to debunk a bunch of myths and correct many misconceptions. But now there are several Reflex riders that have safely and successfully been using a car tire on the rear. Some wishing they had known about it sooner and none that I know of have gone back to using a regular scooter tire on the rear. Some swear by it while others will just swear at it. Still frowned upon by some, but it is becoming more of an accepted practice; well, tolerated at least.

    I'm not crazy, stupid nor too cheap to buy "real" motorbike tires for my ride, I merely choose not to. And if one does not do things within the scope of influence, advice, knowledge or even without the approval of designers and engineers do things necessarily become automatically dangerous. Knee jerk reactions are seldom correct. (and there do seem to be some reactions when this subject comes up still.) Engineers and the rest of the so called educated don't know everything and theory is often a paper tiger. Besides, this world is full of educated idiots. Experience and first hand knowledge are a better and truer gauge because they demonstrate the truth in an absolute and undeniably solid way.
    And the preponderance of evidence thus far (and there is plenty of it) has shown that using a car tire is not unsafe.

    Railing against a thing because it does not fit a certain conceptual mold is of the same genre as trying to kill what one fears only because of the single reason that they don't understand it. The narrow minded are called that for a reason. I think Albert Einstein said it best: "Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds."

    Just one other thing to note about tires I use on my Reflex scooters and that is I also use a 150/70-13 Pirelli DIABLO scooter rear tire on the front of my Reflex scooters. :eek1
    This is the same size REAR tire for the Honda Silverwing FSC600 scooter. Naturally it is taller than the standard 110/90-13 Bridgestone Hoop. But it sticks like stink to the road, handles bumps, soft sand and gravel better IMO. Plus it helps level the bike a little better with the tall tires on the rear. It will wear much longer than the standard size tire. No problems when braking nor has any tendency to hydroplane been noted when riding on wet roads.

    Surely I'm not the only one who thinks outside the box. :huh
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    :1drink:lol3:rofl
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    They have been misspelling darkside all this time :rofl
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    Looks like they make it in a 160/70/17.

    But better not tell mrphotoman that you went with a different width than the bike manufacturer recommended... he'll never forgive you.
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    Since it's still a motorcycle tire,,,,,, maybe the atmosphere won't catch fire and the sky won't fall. Though likely, nuns could still die and almost certainly,,,,,,, kitten's would be maimed!!!!! Ohhhhhh the humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek1:baby:tough:lol3
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    You are really starting to sound ignorant. You don't know what you are talking about. At first I thought you were busting chops online, but you really seem to think you know something about this.
    The dumbsiders. Thats a good one.
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  16. ErikDK

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    Let me see. YOU don't know anything about the subject and decided to consult your peers, a group of riders who are prohibited by UK law to try themselves how car tires work as rear MC tires.

    Faced with expert witnesses like that, the case is clear. Car tires can't be used as MC rear tires. Next case.
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  17. dwc

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    I think that you have taken my remarks somewhat at face value.

    You imply that just because I have posted the topic on another forum that I am going to jump feet first into using a type of tyre which may or may not be suitable for motorcylce use or indeed legal in the UK. Without further research and information I would not be able to make a considered choice.

    I must thank you though for your obvious concern.

    DWC
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    I think that you have taken my remarks somewhat at face value.

    You imply that just because I have posted the topic on another forum that I am going to jump feet first into using a type of tyre which may or may not be suitable for motorcylce use or indeed legal in the UK. Without further research and information I would not be able to make a considered choice.

    I must thank you though for your obvious concern.

    DWC
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  20. ErikDK

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    After finding your posting on the V-strom UK owners site, I'm sorry to have misunderstood your posting here dwc.

    I'd say the british V-strom crowd would have been avid participants in witch burning some centuries back.

    Probably would have had a hard time convincing them the earth is not flat, too.

    And my favorite: "I wouldn't jump out of a plane without a parachute either" No dear Mr. Naysayer, you wouldn't jump out of a plane WITH a parachute, even AFTER seeing other, more courageous, people doing it before.
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