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Discussion in 'Equipment' started by amackenzie, Aug 28, 2010.
If I were to start over, I would consider the Sena product.
@ Shunka: what kind of app did you have in mind? I am certainly willing to support ANY solution that can make the G4 product more user friendly....
Don't know if it's possible or not but something that displays on the phone what mode it is currently in. Being able to control it would be idea but I just don't know how realistic that is.
I have a droid phone so I would like to see that but sure a Iphone app would need to be developed as well.
In all honesty: I think that is a golden idea should it be actually technically possible to do that through bluetooth. But I fear it is not....
upgrade the firmware, it fixed all of my vox problems, when i set the vox to low level.
A quick search and it LOOKS like it is potentially possible...depends on a lot of circumstances though. Mostly what kinda bluetooth is implemented in the G4.
Hopefully someone more versed in bluetooth tech or droid app development can chime in on this idea and let us know if its feasible or not.
My firmware is constantly up-to-date since I check this every week. I run the latest versions of both the G4 PC Software AND the G4 firmware itself.
The fact that your vox works better if you choose the low setting for vox responsiveness is kind of strange, isn't it? It should work less good then a higher setting? I will try it at my system as well and see what happens there. It is worth the try.
The simple solution is to run in "open microphone" all the time and not wait for VOX to activate. Just turn on Channel Button Connect (as it's called in the manual). Basically rather than having the system set on "when I yell into the mic, notice that and activate the system" it's set on "both of us have the mics active at all times". So there's no delay waiting for it to "hear" your voice and activate, it's like an open phone line where anyone can speak at any time. Even when no one is speaking (meaning if your buddy is breathing heavy because he's working hard riding the bike over some whoops, you're gonna hear it). But, on the good side, when one of you talks, no waiting and screaming until the fucking thing "wakes up" and realizes you're trying to say something.
Batteries last all day even if you're on Channel Button Connect (open mike) all day long.
Works for us.
+1 to what ADW said. We run ours with constant open comm. Seems fine that way.
What I havent tried with this kind of setup is listening to FM or Ipod with an "open" mike... I dont think its possible... Some one correct me if I am wrong please.
Why? I am trying to choose.
Thanks ADW for your response. I had to laugh reading your post because I recognize the frustration in the part where you "scream until the fucking thing "wakes up"!
On holiday a few weeks ago there MUST have been several wondering Germans looking at two out-loud screaming tourists on a scooter..... because that was exactly what was happening!
But on a more serious note: I understand what you are suggesting, and we most of the time do so during short rides where you can not be bothered to play some music anyway. And that works for us too.
But on longer drives, I would rather hear some music in between, and that is exactly the situation in which the vox actually NEEDS to work in order to get the other on the intercom and stop the music?
Anyway, is it not strange that you buy a product just because of the long list of features, and then decide to not use them since this works better?
May I not expect from the manufacturer that his shit works as advertised and that he does a better job???
Let me tell you why:
because on the G4 there is a truckload of buttons all on the side of your helmet where your eyes fail to see them, and in order to operate them you need to fiddle around with your glove on on the side of your helmet where you sometimes need to push button A once, or twice or hold it whilst pushing it or whatever....
The G4 is said to do almost everything, but it is sucking up your attention on the road trying to get things to work, and sometimes it takes a really long pushing and swearing session to GET it to work anyway.
It is an annoying piece of equipment. That is what it is.
The Sena SEEMS (I have NO experience with it!!) much more intuitive: turn the knob and push it. Seems ideal.
I have send an email to management of Cardo as well with the tip to either develop some kind of remote control lcd touch screen OR a nice smart app that connects through bluetooth. One can not do more besides developing it yourself which is nonsense of course.
Can't disagree that I'd like the VOX to work better.
I simply suggest looking / comparing the Sena. From what I have read on ADV, the Sena appears to have a hand up on Scala. I cant really say since I have no experience with Sena product.
i think you have set your vox sensitivity the wrong way..... before the 3.0 update, i had to scream, after 3.0 and adjusting the vox settings, i no longer have to yell.
Can you enlighten this a bit more? How was your setting before the update (low, mediate, high?) and how was it after the update?
I have it on "high" which as far as I know means that the responsiveness to sound is the highest meaning it activates at the smallest soundlevel??
let me go get mine and take a look... but i am sure mine is set t low... one sec.
and looks like your right, mine is set to high too.
how loud is your bike? you using a fullface?
Well, I have a motorscooter, so it is not loud (only 250cc's there) and yes, I have a full face integral helmet.
One thing I noticed though, is that with the wind-hood on the mike, it is pretty easy to have the mike turned the wrong way inside. Because there is no mark on the mike what side needs to be to the front (like the Sena has).
So I always make sure by looking under the wind-hood and check.
So it can not be that as well.
It is just that the vox does not work well I guess. Can't see it any other way.... you?
We have 3 g-4's and I can pair 2 of them up but not 3. Tell me what the hell we are doing wrong, we have literally spent hours trying to fix this but can't. here's what we have doe so far;
1 - riders 1 and 2, hold down "A" button for six seconds, and then the blue light on side of unit flashes red.
2 - wait and talk into microphones until units 1 and 2 link up. sometimes it links quickly, sometimes it seems like it takes forever! (is it required that you talk into units to help them pair up?) Light on sides blinks blue after units pair up.
3 - riders 1 and 3 pair up on the "B" channel, hold "B" buttons down for 6 seconds and wait for them to pair.
Here's where we get stuck, it seems like riders 1 and 3 never pair, and if they did, do riders 1 and 3 have to both tap the "A" button to let rider 2 join in? Or do we just leave it alone?oser Please help!!