Cariboo-Chilcotin TRAVEL ADVISORY

Discussion in 'Canada' started by CaribooBC, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. oldtrout

    oldtrout Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the update. Took a quick blast up to the lake (build site) last Thursday, thence to OML for the night.

    Thing I noticed was that everyone seemed a "screw this, life goes on" feeling. My build has progressed faster than I thought, so good on all the local talent. No bumps through any of this.:thumb 100 Mile very busy.

    I think that the emergency services, bless them, are going through a learning curve on this. We need to realize that a burn through the free standing forests is a natural occurrence over the course of time. As humans we can only protect lives and property in that order. I think we may be fighting the same fires next year, so need to better coordinate the talent that is readily available within the province.

    Anyway, up/ down/ up - 500 K each way from the coast on the pig and my ass is done. Dick goes numb :bluduh time for a new seat - first evah. Getting old.

    Keep safe and well.
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  2. Steve G.

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    I think it is place to point out the situation for what it is.
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  3. dustin2

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    That's what CSM is for. CSM exists so hyper-critical partisan trolls can express themselves uninhibited from the restrictions of tact, decency or respect.
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  4. Mr. Canoehead

    Mr. Canoehead Taste Gunnels!

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    You seem to be expressing yourself just fine right here.....
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  5. Steve G.

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    A warehouse fire on Annacis Island , North Delta has turned this area into late November fog, 100' visual distance. At least I don't have to chip ice of my windshield. I can only imagine how bad it's supposed to be in Kamloops and north west right now.
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  6. dustin2

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    Friends who made the long weekend drives up north told me it was like dense fog at ground level. I have a lovely two up ride planned into the Rockies and back through the Cariboo in a couple of weeks -- I am not super optimistic about it now.
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  7. Steve G.

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    i've got a couple friends who have reserved space in the next 2 weeks for their 2 bikes from Pt. McNeil [or Pt. Hardy, I forget] to Bella Coola/Hagensborg, to head back through Williams Lake, and points south east. I think they realize they may have to alter their tour and cancel booking as that road up through Anahim Lake, etc, is closed.
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  8. Rover31

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    Supposed to be up in the Vernon area next week.
    Is it bad or real bad or "are you crazy" bad?

    Thanks
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  9. CaribooBC

    CaribooBC life is an adventure

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    Vernon is relatively unaffected by the fires. Keep an eye on the weather coming through this weekend as well as DriveBC. We are just one cigarette or lightning strike away from another highway closure.
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  10. Bayner

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    The smoke remains thick enough in Penticton I can't see more than 1.5 or 2 kms, effectively negating the benefit of being surrounded in wonderful scenery. Brightly coloured bikinis can still be seen on the beach though :D

    While the temp drops as you gain elevation the smoke doesn't really diminish much. It will annoy your eyes by the time evening rolls around and you'll have issues if you already have any lung or breathing conditions. You also can't ride any single track or quad trails for the time being
    Might be worth a read for those considering travelling in BC this summer:
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/off-road-ban-bc-1.4235780
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  11. CaribooBC

    CaribooBC life is an adventure

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    The situation is actually getting worse if that could be possible. We are now forecast for very little rain and the wind is supposed to get up over 30km/h tomorrow. We were 37C in 100 Mile House today, totally unheard of for us to see temperatures this high. Humidity is 7-8% during the heat of the day. Elephant Hill Fire took a bunch of small runs all around the fire today except for in the Clinton area, so that was good news for their residents.
    The Chilcotin is a disaster of global proportions. 100,000's of hectares burned, new evac orders coming out daily. I fear it is still going to get worse before we see any relief from these fires.
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  12. dustin2

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    Thank you for the update. I heard the smoke was rolling in hard and fast up in your area and it was raining big chunks of ash.

    I fear whatever rain may fall in the heavy areas will do next to nothing.

    Be safe!
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  13. Steve G.

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    My friends leave Tuesday morning for Pt. Hardy to catch the ferry to Bella Coola, to ride through Williams Lake on Hwy 20, then points east. I'm wondering if they should cancel the ferry reservation? I guess they could hang out in Bella Coola, but that's an expensive return trip to hang out there, if they cannot head eastbound past Hagensburg up the 'hill'.
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  14. OceanMtnSea

    OceanMtnSea Pretty Dogged

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    A return ferry ride to Bella Coola is about $700 for a bike and rider, so it depends on how much you like the view from the water?

    I bailed on the route earlier, just after the start of the fires because getting stuck in Bella Coola for a long time was not enticing and I can always go next year.

    Here is the map of the current fires in the area today....................based on the weather forecast and size of some of the fires this will be getting worse, before it gets better.

    http://apps.gov.bc.ca/pub/dmf-viewer/?siteid=5131184402955244847

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    Hwy 20 currently has 3 closures between BC and WL. Closer to WL there might be some FSR you can use to buypass the closures, but on the BC side there is nothing.
    In addition, the government does not only not want people off road in the backcountry, but they also do not want people using FSR in the Cariboo.

    Unfortunately this ride looks like a late fall trip or next-year-country.

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  15. CaribooBC

    CaribooBC life is an adventure

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    Not a chance that they will be able to get through from BC to WL. It will be weeks before this disaster is taken care of. It will be the fall rains that put these fires out or winter snow. Some of these areas that are in the rain shadow will probably smolder all winter and pop back to life next spring. This has now burnt out well over 400,000 hectares west of the Fraser.
    The Elephant Hill Fire, that originated south of Ashcroft is now about 12kms from my home in Lone Butte. It took about a 20km run this weekend, burning through multiple containment lines. We had winds of up to 80km/h with temperatures in the mid 30s and relative humidity in the single digits. We did get some rain and cooler temperatures but I am afraid that it will dry out and get hot again before we get enough rain to lessen the threat from this fire. Very unnerving...... I will not be at VIV next weekend as I need to stay close to home. Elephant Hill alone burnt through somewhere between 30,000 and 50,000 hectares since Friday.
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  16. dustin2

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    Since we're talking wildfires & travel:

    I've modified my trip to the Rockies a little to avoid the Cariboo area but I'm curious what the locals can report on the status of things along the Crowsnest into Waterton Lakes Nat'l Park and in the Kootenays. I am optimistic about our trip and haven't cancelled the rest of my bookings but I'm keeping an eye on things nonetheless.
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  17. Mr. Canoehead

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    Kootenays & Crowsnest is all clear. Well, smokey but no fires. No off road riding allowed. I'm headed to creston on Friday from Calgary.

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  18. BCBackRoads

    BCBackRoads Travels with Gumby

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    I just returned from Kaslo to Kelowna on Sunday. It was smoky for most of the weekend but I rode through some fairly heavy rain all the way from Kaslo to Christina Lake on Sunday morning which may cool things off a bit. However the smoke has rolled back into the Okanagan from the fires up north and it will likely be in the Kootenays as well.
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  19. CaribooBC

    CaribooBC life is an adventure

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    So, Hwy #97 south of 93 Mile House through to Cache Creek reopened today and Hwy #20 reopened from Sheep Creek Bridge to Kleena Kleene, There is still a closure on #20 from Kleena Kleene to the bottom of "the hill". It might open by the weekend. All of the side roads are local traffic only. Also, all crown land and FSR's are off limits at this time as we currently have a full closure of the back country in effect.
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  20. dustin2

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    Thanks, everyone! I will remain optimistic
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