Carlton Complex Fire

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by 81forest, Jul 19, 2014.

  1. thetourist

    thetourist Just passing thru

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    Here is a site I use for checking fires.

    http://www.nifc.gov/fireInfo/nfn.htm


    Lots of stuff burning. New fire southeast of Spokane already thousands of acres. If it gets to the fields, look out.
    8000 acres in Hells Canyon near Pittsburg Landing.
    A bunch of fires in OR around Mitchell, Shaniko, etc.
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  2. 81forest

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    Lots of fires burning throughout the region, just like every bad fire year. But this one is different, for me anyway. Update via fb from a local resident, posted one hour ago:

    "...spent the afternoon driving around the Methow and down to Pateros to get a sense of what has happened. It is intense, people. What you can see from twisp and Winthrop doesn't begin to describe what the landscape now looks like south of Carlton. It is like a blackened moonscape on both sides of the road. It seems that most houses did survive, but occasionally, mostly south of Methow, there is simply a foundation with a lonely chimney standing in the middle. For several miles, the telephone/power poles are blackened stumps, and the power lines hang twisted and blackened in mid air, or lie like ropes on the ground. Above Carlton, & up Libby Creek, giant plumes of smoke still rise. Word at the Carlton general store was that Vinton Road was the source of one of these plumes. We continued onto Pateros, a scene of devastation. It seems that the fire mostly limited itself to a two block area, but everything in that area not made of stone or metal is simply gone. The metal itself is twisted, charred and disfigured not quite beyond recognition. It is easy to see what used to be a washing machine or dryer or refrigerator or a spiral staircase, even in their blackened and twisted state. It was incredibly poignant. A Reporter from Spokane who spoke with us had just come from Chilliquist. He said the devastation was worse there, as they had again no warning before evacuation. Most of the houses were charred, and dead cows were in the road. Back in twisp, the streets were mostly empty. In Winthrop, the sound of the blues festival seemed incongruous, as did the sight of tourists with lawn chairs walking towards the festival. It is all so surreal. Came back down to twisp after some hot dogs with Jim and Kathleen, and drove out a little ways to see what I can see. Sitting here at the Twisp airport, next to the runway, I can see Benson Creek fully in flames, the entire hillside glowing like the embers of a campfire. It still feels far away, but of course not far enough."
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  3. MasterMarine

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    That looks like the Alta Lake Golf Course just outside Pateros. My ex-brother-in-law lost his house out there. My sister sent me pics and all that is left is some of the brick work. :cry
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  4. Dustinvan

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    My landlord has a sheep ranch up Mc Farland creek rd and a cabin up the steep hill from twisp river/ poorman creek rd. I sent an email as this was all blowing up but never heard back. I can only hope she and all her animals are safe.
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  5. 81forest

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    Better news this morning, Twisp has been downgraded to evacuation level 1. I am no longer getting updates from people in the valley for obvious reasons, but I do read that several fire lines are holding.

    Throughout the valley, people are in survival mode and it is going to be a very tough week with no electricity and uncertainty about gas for generators. Reminds me of how much we take for granted!

    One friend who lives in Kent took it upon herself to stuff her car full of essentials and drive to Carlton yesterday. See if this doesn't inspire:

    "Hi everyone! Well we made a successful trip into the valley today and dropped a great amount of supplies at the cove and jill Scotts behind the Carlton store. I an on my way back to Kent. I saw some great things and some really sad things as well as I got an understanding of what we need out there and where we need it. Here is my personal opinion: I think you should take stuff to the cove in Twisp AND directly down to Carlton for the people in Carlton and south of Carlton. so many people between Carlton and methow are hunkered down in their homes with nothing and not many want to drive because of the lack of gas.
    I think that generators are a must asap so people can eat and shower.
    They ALL need flash lights, batteries and possibly propane to cook.
    Sun showers spread out down the valley would be a God sent. Especially deodorant wipes and soaps. If I were you, I'd have some go to The Cove to be distributed to the people from twisp to Winthrop and send some to The sight I set up today Down at Jill Scotts for people Carlton to methow.. We also need flashights, batteries, baby formula, non perishable food, paper plates and plastic utinsels at both locations.

    I an working to set up wifi and showers at my Dads in Carlton (Larry brown) and will gadly accept donations down there. I will let u know when this is ready.

    I talked to REI today who are working on getting some stuff out there.

    I hope that helps."

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  6. 81forest

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    If you have any of the items mentioned above or anything else you would like to donate, it's as easy as a drive to kent! Here is her latest post, her name is Lynn Brown, and btw, she is a rider like us. :clap

    "Remember that people on the west side can deliver items to my house if they want and i'll find a way to get them over. People are wanting to help take stuff over...AND....wanting to donate. You can use my place as an option.
    My address is 20429 100th ave se , kent
    Drop it on the lawn if you want..."

    She posted this publicly on Facebook so I feel ok about pasting up her address here. I will be making a little trip myself shortly. So far she is funding her efforts by credit card, so I'm sure that donations are more than welcome too. :D
    Link to her Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/lynn.brown.10?fref=nf
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    Two really cool visualizations posted on the Chelan County Emergency Management facebook page. Really gives a perspective on what has/is happening. Who ever put these together is brilliant. I'm here in Chelan, and so many of my coworkers have lost homes who live Pateros and the lower Methow - the high school is being used to house refugees and pets, the rodeo grounds is housing large animals.

    This winter the snows didn't arrive until late Jan/early Feb, but it fell mostly in the mountains - our sagebrush steppes received very little, which means that the usual moisture reserves are not there. During my early hikes it was alarming how dry the conditions were back in April and May. Some of my favorite places are going up in smoke and this is quite early in the fire season :-( I've been worried since last winter that this could be a bad year. I used to work as a fire lookout overlooking Aeneas Valley - 4 seasons and never saw anything like this (thank god).

    <iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/SQm1S-RYUzY" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>
    Published on Jul 19, 2014
    A fly through of the public MODIS+VIIRS Fire Data from the US Forest Service for the Carlton Complex Fire in Washington State. Includes a replay of the data over the past few days. The fly through starts at Brewster and Pateros, and then flies around the area including Alta Lake, Chelan, Methow, Carlton, Twisp, Winthrop, Malott, Okanogan, Omak.
    You can download the raw data, including Google Earth data, used to create this video from the US Forest Serivce: http://bit.ly/FSFireData

    <iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/KarGk-pfdu8" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>
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    Yep - mother nature's rules out here - today wind and temps are reasonable - hope it keeps it up for a few more days.
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  10. 81forest

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    This pic of the Alta Lake Golf Course from the Wenatchee World:

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  11. 81forest

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    Wow! This is posted to the Okanogan County Firestorm 2014 fb page by Laura Clark, four hours ago:

    "I want to share a good story with you all.
    My friends did not end up losing their home. Their house had been threatened three times in the process of the fire, but each time the fire backed down and they were okay again. Gebbers sent one of their guys and a tractor up there and cut a fire line around their area. Yesterday afternoon the man went back up there on the advice that they should be okay now. While there, the fire took another run at them and the two neighbors' houses. It didn't look good or hopeful. Suddenly out of nowhere a volunteer Native American fire crew from Billings, Montana appears complete with a water truck. The crew had my friend and the neighbor leave the area and took on the fire. The entire area burned around them, but the crew saved all three houses! These men and women heard we were in a bad situation, gathered their gear and drove straight here. They arrived in Brewster and asked where they were needed. The team in Brewster told them there were some houses in danger right now. They immediately drove up there, after all those hours of prep and travel, and saved these homes. God sent His angels, and they came in the form of Native American Indians from Billings, Montana who volunteered to help complete strangers. Thank you God, thank you to the Gebbers, and a huge thanks to those wonderful people who saved those houses! Thank you Randy Knowlton for cutting that fire line. You are a true hero!"

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  12. TeamGS

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    Wow, thanks for sharing that story. We lived in Brewster in 2009-11 and worked for the Gebbers. We knew the Knowltons and wondered how the houses at the top of Paradise Hill were doing. The fire line looked like it came pretty close.

    We rode our bikes over most of that area between Winthrop and Okanogan and Chelan and knew practically every mile of those backroads. In my mind's eye I see all the houses along those roads and wonder if they survived. So much history is lost in the old lookouts and mill sites as well. The Gebbers have timber and cattle in that land behind Brewster all the way up to the USFS border. Can't imagine how life is going to get back to normal for anyone there any time soon. Their livelihood is gone, if not disrupted, for a long time.
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    This is Tumwater Canyon outside Leavenworth

    Wow

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    I saw that pic posted above earlier today, it's an amazing photo. Looks like a volcano.
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  15. 81forest

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    I think you are right about that. The summer-dependent tourism economy is going to take a major hit as well. Can't believe the Winthrop Rhythm and Blues festival still took place while there was power.

    I'm looking forward to getting over there on the street bike to spend some tourist dollars ASAP. :D
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    Drove up to Pateros this evening and then a short ways up to the Methow Valley as far as the town of Methow....its grim and that's just from the highway. Took some pics, but won't get them up until tomorrow. One bit of good news is the Osprey nest close to the substation near the confluence of the Methow and Columbia Rivers (junction 97 & 153)...survived!!! I'd been observing them for several weeks now. The power folks were already putting up poles and stringing new lines to begin restoring power up the valley (this may take several weeks to finish) near the substation across from the nest site. One of the guys stopped to talk to me about the Ospreys - apparently they like to build nests on the power poles - so when the PUD find a pair doing so they quick put up pole and platform for them, retrieving the sticks, strings and other debris that passes for a nest for an Osprey. putting them on the new location. (Osprey nests are more utilitarian than elegant). It was the one bit of happiness I found on my drive - the beauty of that area is ravaged, so many homes, gone. Power poles burned to the ground with the cross beams just hanging in the air, the sound of generators reverberates through Pateros, Black Canyon burned....and this thing is still 100% NOT CONTAINED. Drove by Antoine Creek and can see the fire actively burning there at around 1900 today. The prevailing winds should keep it moving away from us - but if the winds change ... or another round of lightening storms kick up - it is going to be an ugly ugly scenario.
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  17. guns_equal_freedom

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    Drone aircraft video of the Carlton Pateros Brewster Fire Devastation 2014.

    http://vimeo.com/101148473
    I fought some serious fires all over the state of California in the early 80's, I never saw devastation to populated areas like this.
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  18. 81forest

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    That video absolutely blew my mind, thanks for posting it. Unbelievable! I have been through Pateros probably hundreds of times, and I really don't recognize any of that landscape. So weird.
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    Love your description of the Osprey nest. A bit of life clinging to all the charred waste. Thanks for the report. :nod
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  20. ADVwnbe

    ADVwnbe Been here awhile

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    Hey folks just wanted to let you know that one of the inmates here ( michaelyogi ) lost his house in Carlton and everything he owns, possibly even his ride. He wanted me to let folks know who know him that he and his gal robin are ok, their animals are all ok and they are insured and will rebuild!

    BTW I live in Leavenworth and although that picture of the Tumwater Canyon on fire looks amazing and scary we have no problems here other than a detour through Plain if we want to go over Stevens Pass. And compared to the Methow we are in no peril. Please focus on them!!

    PW
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