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Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by Old 658, Dec 28, 2013.
Can you provide a link to those plasic holders. My Google-fu is weak
I use those cannisters on my concours14 but i just put this on my ADV bike and it holds 6.3 gallons
Ketel 1 is a perfect fit, but I have the tall cap
Strangely enough but haven't found any on eBay, just this - nice colour but ridiculous price! When I shopped for them a couple of years ago there would be dozens going for a tenner apiece or so. Try your local tractor sparepart dealers, these tubular containers are used for tractor operator manuals.
I've seen something like this before and I've had a few questions:
1. I know the MSR bottles are for carrying fuel - backpacking with the bottles inside your pack - but COULD they leak?
2. I guess if they leaked inside this tube, with the neopreen seal, the gas would not come out - right?
3. The ones I saw before, were mounted to the back of the bike on the underside of a rack. On the non exhaust side - no problem But on the exhaust side - what about heat? Any concerns there?
Don't know about the tube, but those bottles don't leak unless you don't close it tight. Personally tested countless times in backpacks and in moto luggage. (But don't get the cheap knockoffs, get the real thing.)
1.-2. Everything in our material world could go wrong and so could these bottles leak. To my mind a more correct question would be: how likely rather than could? My experience shows that not too much. In fact all these aluminium bottles have one weak spot: the seal ring under the lid. Usually they're silicone or PET and not necesserily petrol-resistant. If you keep petrol in for longer time they may swell. Can be cured by changing them for smth cut out of petrol-resistant rubber or just ignored - the more they swell the tighter they seal, don't they?
3. Mine have been mounted on the cage so there's ample room for airflow between them and the engine. I think they catch more heat from sunrays due to their black non-reflective surface on their outside than from the engine on their inside. Besides, I trust their plastic is thick enough to serve as sufficient barrier to high temperatures.
Here is where mine are mounted.... I think there is plenty of airflow on the exhaust side to keep the can from getting hot. If your real worried about it, just put less fuel in that one for more room to expand...
Whats that TRUCK doing there!!!!
Crash-tested one of my tubes today:
The bottle inside didn't leak. Will now find out how easy it is to repair.
KOH that's a great idea! I looked up fuel bags and found one with no price. This is a nice $20 bag that comes with wine to boot! Have you EVER had ANY of these bags fail? I ask because I'm sure there are so many kinds. I'd like to consider this option only if it's 100% leak proof, for obvious reasons.
from a RR
Been using mylar bladders for years, mine are not from wine boxes, they are from the to go sized coffee boxes. Dunkin donuts and starbucks bothhave them. I just asked for a couple of empty boxes and they gave them to me.
Filled one and left it around, tossed it around, stepped on it, kicked it across the backyard, on concrete. Never burst.
I carry 1 or 2 folded up on road trips.
Had to use one once, no problems at all.
if you get the ones with some flat areas in the corners then you can add grommets as tie down points.
I would not carry them inside a pannier though, they probably would make everything inside the pannier wreak of fuel.
Found out: nought. Just nothing at all. V. simple repair - replacing the broken off plastic bit with its metal copy, they did it for free.
I have a 990 adventure but my buddies have GS1300's so I was tired of constantly wording about having to refuel while they could just go on, and on, and on. I was also tired of bothering them with having to find a gas station so I did this last weekend.
I just saw this thread and I ran (unintentionally) an experiment using a 1 gallon Arizona Ice Tea Arnold Palmer plastic jug. It can be seen here:
I needed a container to drain some old fuel out of a dirt bike and used one of these jugs ( I like Arnold Palmers - half ice tea and half lemonade). A gallon of gas has been sitting in one of these jugs on the side of my house for probably a year. I use the gas to clean bicycle chains, etc. The bottle is still in great condition and the plastic threads for the cap are really robust. Just another option. I'll probably use one for future Baja trips with the 950 if I want to avoid detours for fuel.
I had one of those manual holders no my KL250 Sherpa in Australia last year. They're great!
For gas, I bought two gigantic 64oz flasks off Amazon.com. The gag-gift kind, for $13 bucks each. They're really thin with good fitting lids (buy the stainless steel ones with good reviews), and easy to slip into a pannier. It's a bitch getting the gas in, but for once in a while, emergency use, they're great.
Just don't confuse your flasks if you're carrying more than just gas :)
Here in Latin America, where I'm riding right now, no one bothers with expensive containers. Just get an empty water bottle and fill'er up! For short-term, it works for them just fine.