Cat Herders: Shenandoah Valley Inmates

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  1. BlakKrauStudios

    BlakKrauStudios I'm cool... right?

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    Yeah, but I think you'd agree that nobody is as smart as you, nor do they know as much about bikes, the proper laws regarding motorbike safety, and how to properly maintain their motorbike. So, we have stickers that we put on the side of the machine to make it easier for police to spot who has a "safe" bike, and who might not. Because while I'm sure you're able to spot when someone's pads are too worn while riding down the highway at 65mph, not every police officer can, so having an annual safety check sticker makes it much easier for them to spot the unsafe vehicle.

    I know you're trying really hard to make this about the big, bad government taking your rights away, but since many shops do the inspections for free, and the general riding public cannot be trusted to be a certified mechanic for the brand of motorbike they're riding while doing a full 100% safety check before every ride, this is the best course of action to keep everyone safe, both riders and other people on the roadway.
  2. ONandOFF

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    Uh.......

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  3. ONandOFF

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    That's hilarious. No wonder they lost their inspection license. They should; if we have to follow the law to get the things then they should have to when providing them. Otherwise it's just another argument for the system being a joke.

    How does the DMV license inspection stations? I'm only familiar with the state police certification.
  4. Gimmeslack

    Gimmeslack furthur

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    I misspoke - local shop lost their SP certification, not DMV.

    I'll admit I did like the no-hassle for bike, since I stay on top of that. But I fully respect the state inspection system and glad that the days of junkers blowing blue smoke out the tailpipe, is mostly gone. Laws and regulations are not an instant solution to safety or other societal issues - but often it's a start...
  5. bwalsh

    bwalsh Long timer

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    No matter who slaps a sticker on your vehicle, its still the owners responsibility to keep it in good runing order. The inspection confirms it is in good enough condition to be on the road. It doesn't give you carte blanche to say F*** it It's the inspectors responsibility now if I go over a cliff in flames. Yes, an inspector can held responcible if it was a blatant oversight.
    A lot of inspectors in the country know their customers very well and know who takes good care of their vehicles and who doesn't. There's no reason to go over some with a fine tooth comb. Unfortunately Virginia decided each inspection should be timed now...on the Virginia state police website. 1/2 hour per vehicle. I think it's 15-20 minutes for a motorcycle. That cuts down on the amount of vehicles run thru an inspection station on a daily basis and makes it not worth the time for service stations to conduct them. A freakin monkey can go thru the entire vehicle inspection in under 15 minutes.
  6. ONandOFF

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    Interesting; I'll try to remember to ask about that half hour thing next time.

    We don't see as many smoking, polluting vehicles these days because most of the vehicles from those days are no longer in service. In this rural part of Virginia we aren't subject to emissions compliance checking (thank goodness) but they are in populated areas like northern VA. Here it can be throwing oil smoke and still pass safety inspection. The ECUs these days are programmed to illuminate the check engine light and produce an error code if they sense a parameter out of range including those of emissions control systems.
  7. bwalsh

    bwalsh Long timer

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    Occasionally you'll see a vehicle fogging for mosquitos.
    Diesel truck owners can buy tunes(for off-road use only, wink, wink) that increase HP and also cause them to smoke, pre turbo spool, if you romp on the fuel pedal. Dumping fuel into the cylinders is what gives the truck some get up and go until the turbo kicks in. Some idiots like to shut down highways doing that. Those people need their asses kicked.
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  8. ONandOFF

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    Yes they do. It's an assault on those in the cloud.
    I found it enlightening how when emissions standards started, passenger cars were targeted while trucks were left to be. One 18 wheeler seemed to belch more nastiness than a hundred cars combined. They claimed you just couldn't see or smell the cars' pollution... I wonder why they would say that. $:hmmmmm$
    Diesel fumes are nauseating. Definitely a lot cleaner overall now though than decades ago.
  9. Iron Cross Junction

    Iron Cross Junction Been here awhile

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    Apologies for starting a divisive brouhaha about mandatory inspections. :fight

    I had just wondered if -- again, only hypothetically, if any LEO is lurking here! :amazon -- anyone avoided the whole thing as Some People do. :augie Would think it easy enough to enforce with digits by simply cross populating the DMV registration data with the VSP safety-inspection stuff. Shhhhh. Itttttt.

    I have yet -- looking frantically for wood to knock -- to be stopped (in Virginia) on a motorcycle. Even have four or five "positive points" on my DL. But, had wondered if the darn thing really mattered.

    And, as I am a liberal-arts kind of guy and loathe math more than mandatory inspections :waysad, I especially appreciated the "break even" data. :clap

    Am in Atlanta where it is -- for next couple of days at least -- delightfully warm compared to the top of Virginia. May borrow one of my brother's (Italian, of course :D) motos and ride a bit.

    Best,

    Bill

    P.S. I also apologize for too many emojis. So many choices on ADV that I get distracted. :lol2 I'll try to control myself (next time).
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    :photog Blame it on the G&T's. :deal Yeah, that's it. :getiton

    It's 28° :bluduh here now, but supposed to get near sixty. :patch Not bad for December. :dunno Unfortunately, the party's over as the cold is moving in soon. :vardy :fpalm

    :becca
    I'm ready for spring.

    I got an antique plate :D for my 33 year old bike. :ricky Inspections not required. :clap


    :augie

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  11. bwalsh

    bwalsh Long timer

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    Baby steps....and you're exactly right. It is about $$$. Everyones.
    I'm sure you wouldn't have liked seeing grocery/goods prices skyrocket overnight if they had cracked down on diesel emissions.
  12. Iron Cross Junction

    Iron Cross Junction Been here awhile

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    WRT "rolling coal" ... https://www.tesla.com/semi/

    If this ever happens -- and if in my lifetime! -- sure will be nice not to have to listen to some of those rigs roar up 522 past the house. Many are obviously driven by the LPSL crowd.

    Bill
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    Oh there are, and they will be waiting for you when you return from hotlanta. :D

    BTW, it's 87 and humid here.
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    Balancing act between grocery and medical bills eh...
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    Medicaid bills weren't quite the issue then that they are now...
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    One would be tempted to think that with all the regulations we'd be living healthier now than ever but the cost of medical insurance and bills don't support that theory very well.
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    I'm not even touching that except to say that I didn't notice the typo I made. It was supposed to be medical bills...not Medicaid bills.
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    Gimmeslack furthur

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    :fpalm
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    DZ23451 Drank the (Orange!) Kool-Aid

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    In Virginia a ticket for no inspection sticker doesn't carry any points on your license. A lot of jurisdictions consider it a fix it ticket and will drop the charge if you come to court with a new inspection. (They will want court costs, because yes, it's about money.)
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    Licence "points": one way to keep track of what will count against someone is to remember moving violation - something the driver does in the context of operating a vehicle. Registration, insurance, equipment/inspection, parking, and such violations are not applied.

    One glaring exception is DUI. The laws and interpretations are so loose that one needn't even be in the car to be charged. Just walking to the car keys in hand while intoxicated can net a charge. Or simply sitting in the driver's seat while intoxicated, car off, even sleeping. These and variations are enough for the discretion of an officer to decide the other person's intent, though they've not done it, and put the brakes on their liberty and pursuit of happiness.