CEDRIC the entertainer, epic central coast ride coming.

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  1. dyvking

    dyvking ahead of his flamin star

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    Coastal Epic Dualsport Ride In California

    Ok folks.
    ddennis, wallywhirled, h8chains, myself, and others have been collaborating on what should be a superior dual sport weekend that highlights the absolute best that the region has to offer:
    Sierra Madre, Camino Cielo, Refugio Road, Foxen Canyon and Tepusquet, Hi Mountain Road, Pozo Road, Carrizo Plains, Hwy 33 just to name a few of the roads.

    Jocko's, the Pozo Saloon, Cold Springs Tavern, just to name a few of the eateries to be sampled.

    We're talking about well over a hundred miles of dirt.

    Looking at the weekend of June 14-15. (maybe a day in front and behind if you have to travel far)

    UPDATE: Here is the current route plan from WallyWhirled:

    June 14, Saturday
    get gas in Ojai before Breakfast
    8:00 a.m. Deer Lodge on Hwy 33 in Ojai, Breakfast, mile 0
    47 miles up Hwy 33, right on Quatal Canyon RD
    62 miles, Left on Cerro Noroeste RD which becomes Klipstein Canyon RD
    82 miles, Right on Hwy 166
    91 miles, Maricopa, gas at Shell station, U-turn back up Hwy 166
    93 miles, Right on Elkhorn Grade RD
    xx miles, bear Left on Elkhorn
    xx miles, Right turn on Soda Lakes RD
    xx miles, Left on Pipeline RD
    xx miles, Right on cowpath
    xx miles, Right on another mo better cowpath
    xx miles, Left at the next antelope trail (this one is more like a dirt road)
    xx miles, after crossing through closed gate, re-close gate, then instead of going up the ridge at the small (dry) creek crossing hang a sharp Right u-turn
    xx miles, Right on yet another cowpath, cross the dry-creek twice
    xx miles, Right on Soda Lakes RD
    xx miles, Left onto Crossover RD
    126 miles, Left onto Elkhorn RD
    141 miles, Left onto "Soda Lakes RD" at Hurricane/Elkhorn intersection
    xx miles, Right onto the "real" Soda Lakes RD
    167 miles, Left on Hwy 58, if you have a small gas tank contact Dave (ddennis) to arrange a fuel drop in the California Valley
    xx miles, Left on Pozo RD
    196 miles, Pozo Saloon (historic) Lunch Break
    196 miles, Left on Hi Mountain RD
    miles, Left at T-intersection at Lopez Lake
    220 miles, Arroyo Grande
    xx miles, Left when traffic is prevented from continuing on road
    xx miles, Arroyo Grande, gas at Shell station (I think it's Shell)
    xx miles, Left on Hwy 101, unless heading to SLO for Firestone's
    xx miles, Exit Nipomo for Jockos and Dinner at 8:30 or if we somehow arrive early enough, continue down 101 to Santa Maria
    xx miles, Exit Santa Maria at Broadway, head to Motel 6, shower before dinner at Jockos in Nipomo at 8:30 if early enough to shower before dinner

    If some people get a late start it should be easy to catch us at the Pozo Saloon by blasting through the Carizzo Plains on Soda Lakes RD or Elkhorn RD because we'll meander through the National Monument. Don't be late, sleep at my (wallywhirled) place Friday night if it makes your life easier.

    June 15, Sunday
    8:00 a.m. Pappy's, Betteravia RD exit off Hwy 101, Breakfast, Gas, mile 0
    0 miles, continue down Betteravia which becomes Foxen Canyon RD
    7 miles, Left on Santa Maria Mesa RD
    11 miles, Left on Tepusquet RD
    15.5 miles, pass Colson Canyon RD.

    If you missed the start and want to find us then turn Right and head up Colson Canyon toward Hwy 166 in the reverse of the following directions or continue on Tepusquet RD to Hwy 166 and take a right on Sierra Madre.

    xx miles, Right on Hwy 166
    xx miles, Right on Cottonwood Canyon RD, if you have a small gas tank continue up Hwy 166 to New Cuyama then return on Hwy 166 to Cottonwood Canyon RD
    xx miles, Cottonwood Canyon RD pretty much becomes Bates Canyon RD
    xx miles, Right on Sierra Madre at T-intersection at top of ridge
    xx miles, Left on Miranda Pine RD (one of several possible turns)
    xx miles, Left on La Brea Canyon RD (easy to miss, return uphill if you reach a locked gate and turn right on Miranda Pine RD)
    xx miles, Right on Colson Canyon RD
    xx miles, Left on Tepusquet RD mileage count begins again at 0 miles here
    4.5 miles, Right on Santa Maria Mesa RD
    8.5 miles, Left on Foxen Canyon RD
    11.5 miles, Left on Foxen Canyon RD in Sisquoc (easy to miss)
    28.5 miles, Left on Foxen Canyon RD near Curtis Winery (easy to miss)
    33 miles, Left on Hwy 154 at Los Olivos, possible pit stop for refreshments at Matties Tavern (historic)
    35 miles, Right on Roblar Avenue (at Roblar Winery)
    35 miles, quick Left on Refugio RD immediately past Roblar Winery
    xx miles, Santa Ynez, Gas
    45 miles, Left on West Camino Cielo
    xx miles, Left on Kinevan RD, extremely sharp left 0.2 mile past Right switchback after Camino Cielo become pavement again
    xx miles, Cold Spring Tavern (historic), Lunch; or continue down Stagecoach RD past the suicide bridge to Paradise for eats
    xx miles, U-turn, back up Stagecoach RD, cross Hwy 154 onto East Camino Cielo
    xx miles, East Camino Cielo becomes Gibraltar RD; or take a left and get some more dirt roads to the Hot Springs
    xx miles, Left on Mountain DR, zigzag to 192 closely follow 192 signs (easy to miss)
    xx miles, Left on Hwy 150 toward Ojai
    xx miles, Left on S. La Luna Avenue
    xx miles, Hwy 33, Ojai, Deer Lodge, anticipated arrival 6:30 p.m. Farewells


    This is a 'pick up' ride.. not sanctioned by anyone, loosely organized, no frills other than what YOU bring. None of it will be hard-core dirt, or anything beyond what an average rider on a BygPyg couldn't handle. The day's rides will be LONG though. You know, the kind of ride Gillifunk, MadBritt and AngryScot would go on.
    Interested? Drop a dime in this thread.

    "IN" :
    ddennis669
    Idea_man
    WallyWhirled
    Windrat
    h8chains
    KLR_Woody
    2old2race
    Jeff E (what's your ADV nic. Jeff?)
    Baja Ho
    Treadless
    DarrenO
    dyvking (partly)
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  2. ddennis669

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    Ho-kay, let's review the counter clockwise loop from the other thread. :deal


    Saturday, June 14 - DAY 1

    FUEL AVAILABLE in Ojai.
    BREAKFAST and MEET at The Deer Lodge in Ojai

    CA-33 north
    Tinta Trail
    (This could be a tough one. Anyone ride it lately?)
    Cuyama Peak
    Santa Barbara Canyon
    CA-33 south

    FUEL AVAILABLE in Ventucopa

    Quatal Canyon Road
    Cerro Noereste
    Klipstien Canyon Road
    CA-33/166

    FUEL AVAILABLE in Maricopa

    Elkhorn Grade
    Carrizo Plain National Monument
    Pipeline Road
    Padrone Canyon
    Lawson Springs
    Soda Lake Road south
    Crossover Road
    Elkhorn Valley Road
    Hurricane/Crocker Springs Road
    Midoil Road (Fellows)

    FUEL AVAILABLE in Taft

    CA-33 north
    CA-58 East
    Pozo Road

    LUNCH at the Pozo Saloon
    (Ted Nugent, the Motor City Madman, will be appearing later that evening.) :lol3



    High Mountain Road

    FUEL AVAILABLE at Arroyo Grande
    DINNER at Jocko's (in SLO?) :freaky
    MOTEL at ??? (Wally, where di you see $60 per night?) :ear


    Sunday, June 15 - DAY 2

    BREAKFAST at ???

    CA-166 east
    Cottonwood Canyon/Bates Canyon Road
    Sierra Madre Ridge Road
    La Brea Canyon Road
    Colston Canyon Road
    Tepesquet Canyon Road
    Foxen Canyon Road

    FUEL AVAILABLE in Orcutt
    (We can use Walt's secret route in and out, see previous thread.)

    Foxen Canyon Road
    US-101

    FUEL AVAILABLE in Buellton

    US-101
    Refugio Road
    West Camino Cielo Road
    CA-154
    Old Stage Coach Road

    LUNCH at Cold Springs Tavern

    Old Stage Coach Road
    CA-154
    West Camino Cielo Road
    Romeo Canyon Road ??? And possible side trip to Hot Springs?
    CA-192
    Casitas Pass (CA-150)

    FUEL AVAILABLE in Ojai and DEPART from The Deer Lodge.
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  3. idea man

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    People are in awe of the complexity. I'll hate myself for it but I'm in. Luckily, I'm sure it won't be hot in any of these places.
    Anyone done High Mountain Road lately? It was getting pretty rocky last time. Same with camino cielo. Oh crap I dropped my purse. Let me recant my earlier statement. I'm in unless I break a nail.

    PS: Jocko's is in Nipomo. We could do the new Clubhouse (This Olde House) in SLO.
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  4. ErrinV

    ErrinV D Boon!

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    Interesting. Going to follow this thread. One question though? Are we camping somewhere?

    Errin
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  5. WallyWhirled

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    Walt has indicated there's a Motel 6 or something like that near 101/166. That would be pretty close to Nipomo (Jocko's) and still along the general route.

    I just visited motels.com and typed in Arroyo Grande and it brought up several motels in SLO that were under $70/night and some under $60. A bit further away from Jocko's though. Am thinking Walt's suggestion on this one might be better. Walt?

    Hi Mountain Road and West Camino Cielo are a bit rougher this year from the rain. Yeah Baby! There are rocks-a-plenty and some nice deep trenches plus just enough sand in places to keep things interesting.

    Slight modification to the route listed, come in on Foxen to or across 154 to Santa Ynez. No need to return to 101 from Foxen. Gas in Santa Ynez. Then up Refugio from there to West Camino Cielo. Lunch at Cold Springs Tavern then to East Camino Cielo and drop either down Gibralter to 192 and over to 150 and Casitas Pass or head to the Hot Springs (more dirt, out/back) then Gibralter.
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  6. idea man

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    Coming off high mountain road, you'll want to head south to Jocko's not North to SLO. IMHO The M-6 is about 7 miles south of there. SLO and its Motel Mecca are at least 20 miles in the other direction. You could head north into SLO on the back roads, but that will still be 20 some miles.
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  7. WallyWhirled

    WallyWhirled Been here awhile

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    Dagnabit David. Ted Nugent is at Pozo on June 13, not the 14. Bring your guns. :gun1
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  8. Fubars

    Fubars What would Scoobydo?

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    We rode past the Tinta Trail sign on the 33 this afternoon. Didn't see any barricades near the entrance before the river crossing. But that turns into hardcore singletrack past the campground on the other side of the river. Don't think you're gonna get any big bikes up there to Cuyama Peak if that's what you had in mind, Walt.

    But you can do Cuyama Peak from Santa Barbara Canyon.

    MMMmmmmmm.......Jockos....:dg :yum :kbasa :dutch :slurp
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  9. dyvking

    dyvking ahead of his flamin star

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    Good intel. I haven't been up there in a long time. Is there a forest service rd. that goes up to Cuyama Peak from Santa Barbara cyn that's still open?
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  10. Fubars

    Fubars What would Scoobydo?

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    SB Canyon Road is the only way to get in there. I haven't been up there since Janauary last year. I'm guessing the paved section is open for ranchers access, but I'll bet it's closed off where the pavement ends just because of the big fire last fall. We did Quatal Canyon yesterday. If this thread was started earlier, I could have done a recon for you guys. I'm supposed to meet some friends at Ballinger tomorrow, but haven't heard back from them yet. Might not be going at all.

    There's some steep sections when you get up to Cuyama Peak.

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    But it's doable on a big bike. And the view is outrageous.

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  11. 2old2race

    2old2race I wana ride

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  12. dyvking

    dyvking ahead of his flamin star

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    Is the KLR going to be fixed by then?
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  13. dyvking

    dyvking ahead of his flamin star

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    I hiked from Tepusquet to LaBrea Cyn today, and Colson Canyon Road has just been graded. No ruts, still some water crossings, but the surface has some loose spots, and a couple of corners where the dust is about 3 inches deep. Other than that, it's in fine shape. I didn't go far enough up the LaBrea to see how much they've worked on that.
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  14. dyvking

    dyvking ahead of his flamin star

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    Errin..
    So far the plan is to motel-it to save weight/space, etc. Plus, it's lots of riding and no one will really want to run a camp I don't think.
    Stay tuned though, there may be some who want to camp.
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  15. ErrinV

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    Cool. I don't know that I could do both days yet anyways.

    Errin
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    2old2race I wana ride

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    Find out by the end of the week
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    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    i'm interested.
    just gotta see if work will allow me off on saturday.:deal
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  18. WallyWhirled

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    Did a little test run today. Got a late start waiting for Jeff so had to start off with a couple of Bloody Marys at Deer Lodge. That led into a fantastic ride up Hwy 33.

    Went up into Tinta. That's a definite NO GO. It's designated Wilderness now. No motorized vehicles and that includes bicycles? Couldn't figure that one out so on to Ventucopa for gas....or so I thought. Jeff's bike pulled into the honky tonk and mine couldn't help but follow.

    After the pause that refreshes we did get gas and then back to Quatal Canyon Road. Nice Air! I'm a wuss and can't wait to see what the Large Cajones Crew pull off out there. Cerro Noereste is just such a cool road too.

    From Cerro Noereste we went West on 166 and did some bushwacking at the end of Aliso Canyon. That's another definite No Go.

    So Cottonwood Canyon it was and was it ever nice. Bates Canyon had just been graded. Lots of soft, loose powder to slippy slide on all the way up to Sierra Madre. It was Oh My God Beautiful the whole way. Sierra Madre had also been graded. Some decent airtime to be had up there too. With any luck the soft stuff will get compacted before the ride.

    The fun just kept getting more fun. Miranda Pine road had also been graded, for what that's worth. We had quite the adventure. Got down to a locked gate and realized we'd somehow missed our turn onto La Brea. Better yet, somewhere between missing the turn and the locked gate someone turned off the sun.

    Onto La Brea and talk about wasted effort. Not just ours. The person who thinks grading that road did any good is a definite candidate for political office. WooHoo! Now the creek crossings came into play. Nothing too bad but definitely a whole lotta fun in the dark. Bacci Ball sized rock garden minefield was the road consistency for some stretches.

    Jeff blew past Colson Canyon so I had the chance to finally get in front of him for a bit. Colson was great. For the most part even in the dark we could hang the rear ends out on the corners and dang Jeff sure has a big rear end.

    Saw a bobcat and the BMW treed it. That was cool. Dogs barking. Jeff standing in the dark in front of a house. Waking up the residents and bumming fuel.

    Down Tepusquet to Foxen to Santa Maria for fuel and food. 101 to 154 to 101 and back to Ventura.

    Dirt Summary: Quatal Canyon, Cottonwood Canyon, Sierra Madre, Miranda Pine, La Brea and Colson Canyon all good to go. :clap

    I've now ridden all the dirt sections and paved sections for CEDRIC at least once this year. This is some really, really good stuff. Incredible riding, scenery, food and friends. It's for sure going to be Epic. Maybe even a classic...
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  19. dyvking

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    All that and NO PICTURES? WTF?:lol3

    Wally.. any actual water still in the creek crossings in LaBrea Canyon?
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  20. WallyWhirled

    WallyWhirled Been here awhile

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    Now I have to learn how to post photos too? Jeez. The file size of my photos is too large to upload and I can't figure out how to save the photos with a smaller file size. Any suggestions?


    Water in the creeks?? All those creek crossings actually dry out?? :waysad
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